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"Hoy es mi cumpleaños y estoy emocionado."
Translation:Today is my birthday and I'm excited.
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silly to take this time.... I said " I am ..... and the correct answer was I'm
SEEMS RIDICULOUS UNLESS THERE IS A GOOD REASON????????
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I noticed today (14 Aug '18) that Duo is now offering Another correct solution:.
E.g. My answer Who is unwell? for ¿Quién está enfermo? was deemed correct, and Duo also offered Who is sick? as an alternative response.
I haven't seen alternatives being offered before so perhaps the reporting has had some effect.
Most likely lies, The_Fast_Wind. I checked the word bank, and I'm is there, but not "I" & "am".
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This is only the "preferred translation", but it's far from the only one that's accepted. Ususally Duolingo doesn't care if you use contractions like "I'm" or their expanded forms. They should be treated equally.
(I would reply to yours, but it would make the expansion of text too small.) Sure, that's true, but as I said in many different forms, Duolingo chooses the most popular use of a phrase in a conversation. Seeing this argument, the most used phrase is "Today is my birthday and I'm excited."
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that with "I am," the thing SHOULD be incorrect. No, I believe that both should be accepted. I'm just stating why it ISN'T accepted.
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Swear I heard "yo" before estoy. Sometimes her pronunciation sounds like she has a mouth full of peanut butter (can't wait till I can write that in Spanish)
He was saying that he heard it... He could be providing false information, but it's often that there is confusion when text-to-speech comes in. Could simply be a glitch.
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The sentences are fixed but the speakers vary. Or differently expressed, the speakers don't have a fixed gender. :)
It is a great pity that Duo can't match the gender of the speaker to the gender in the sentence. Where (as in this case) there is no clue other than the voice, it makes sense to match the gender with the voice.
They tried to get everything up as fast as possible, so they could help people earlier. Before you start replying saying "They have time to edit it now," once again, this is text to speech. They randomized it, to make it sound like average conversations. Since not everyone would be male or female in a conversation every time. Hopefully this clears SOMETHING up...
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If you were studying this in a real classroom, you could have a teacher giving you the same sentances as examples, and you wouldn't be able to take any clues from their gender either, so this is no different.
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I agree with all the responses to your question - but why can't DuoLingo say - another correct translation is "emocionada" if the speaker is a woman. They offer other options and in this case, it really should be the disgression of the user. Also, - I am a woman, so if I am writing the sentence for me - I would use emocionada. I have given up - always go with masculine if they don't specify. Typical MO.
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If you have a listening task, you have to match the spoken sentence exactly - and there are plenty of female-perspective sentences in this course as well. For En-Es translations, either option needs to be accepted, of course.
I don't understand your problem. I tend to try different genders just for fun and I've never had any problems with it. (Unless of course the gender is specified already, like it is in listening comprehension tasks)
"emocionado" is probably a loanword (from latin?) So how would it sound, if I used the same in English: 'emotional' ?
Spanish is a loanlanguage from Latin :) Emotional has another meaning: "related to emotions" or "determined by emotions". There is no a direct cognate (*emotionated) in English.
I disagree. There are no "loanlanguages", only certain general similes, linguistic siblings. And the 'mother language' can be derived through linguistic history. frinstance we Finns are very close to Estonians, but still, today the Estonians understand Finnish better than do vice versa Finns. But anyway, Estonian is older than Finnish. Only the fact that they've been longer under slavic/ germanic &c influence, so they have more loanwords/ expressions from Europe than we have. Same kind of diffusion happened throughout in Europe since the days of Caesar (over 2thou yrs ago)
Spanish is a direct descendent of Latin. People who spoke Latin in the Iberian peninsule changed their language through centuries and it eventually became Spanish, Portuguese and other languages. Then, around 80% of Spanish comes from Latin and there are also new Latin loanwords, specially in sciences, but "emocionado" it doesn't seem a new loanword.
You're leaving out the influence of Arabic on Spanish. That was 700 years of history. Consider sugar (azúcar and sakar) and shirt (camisa and qamis). Too many people forget that Spain was a Muslim country longer than it's been a Christian country. And when they were conquered by Christians and "united" by Ferdinand and Isabella, the Spanish when full-court imperialistic and genocidal. Plus there's the whole Spanish inquisition. The world may have been better off if Spain had stayed Muslim, and I say that as a Catholic who has chosen Mexico as my home.
And it is incorrect - considering simple fact that both countries - muslim and catholic in fact co-existed for most of this time then catholic kingdoms date up from 720 or so and Umayyad invasion happened just decade earlier. And fall of Granada is 1492. So christian kingdoms became as old as muslim about a year 1500. Now 500+ years later. Also worth saying is that during Reconquest people were generally resettled not murdered (many gentry and even some kings of Catholic Spain had some Moor ancestry) and what happened during Inquisition is different thing and completely irrelevant to Reconquest. Sorry but "judging the past" is never easy. Better to just remember things not to repeat bad ones.
What if the emotion I feel on my birthday is not excitement? They could have introduced a new word like "exitado/exitada".
That's true, emocionado can also mean moved or touched. Still, this is what a native speaker would say. Excitado/a (note the c) would sound more like frantic.
Thanks; that's the kind of thing I need to know as a non-native speaker.
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In birthdays people is happy, not excited. People say: Hoy es mi cumpleaños y estoy muy feliz, people never say "emocionado" on birthdays
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Therre are many countries in America, at least in Colombia I've heard expressions as: ¡qué emoción!.¡Eso me emociona!, ¡qué emoción tan grande!, I have seen the word "emocionado" only translated from English.
Es verdad. Duolingo is a bit too literal for me. It's a good tool, but limited. I prefer a more dynamic approach to translation rather than this cut and paste crap.
You are right. I looked up "turned on" in a dictionary and it is completely exact for "excitado".
Yes, "excitado" can mean either "excited" or "aroused/turned on" depending on the context.
I understand and see my spelling error. Listening to the slow speaking of the spanish phrase, I hear "este" rather than "estoy." For a beginner (as am I), it is MUY IMPORTANTE to have the speaker be very precise (even though few will speak so well in real life) so the beginner can "figure it out" as we go! This challenge is exacerbated beyond explanation when one is hard of hearing (as am I). Hearing aids can only compensate for some things!
I also notice the speakers OFTEN do NOT use a correct inflection when speaking a question (in Spanish). Although not related to hearing challenges, the beginner (yep, me again!) DEPENDS on inflection and clear enunciation to interpret and learn appropriately. PLEASE consider this in your AWESOME program!
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Must be the recording, because I understood "emocionada", and it made sense because a woman was speaking. However, it turns out "emocionado" is correct.
It is very boring when “I am “is marked as wrong and “I’m “ is correct. Can one of the brains at duolingo explain the difference.
123 teach me verb conjugations conjugates estoy as I am!!! I am is the same as I'm!
So when there is a computer programming error you recommend that people change to accommodate the programming error? My solution is to report the problem to the programmers. My solution honors the dynamic nature of language. Your solution is a nonsolution.
What is your feud with RyagonIV? He's been giving great advice in this site for years. Also, as a programmer I think it could be quite a nightmare to take DL's code and teach it to recognise all noun-verb contractions, so your solution just looks like "passing the problem to someone else".
A feud? There is no feud. Duolingo is a language instruction problem. These languages belong to people. Computers have their own language, their own code. My approach to technology is similar to that of Ivan Illich and Paulo Freire. Technology needs to serve people, not the reverse. So yes, my solution is to pass the information on to the programmers so that they can fix the technology so that language remains human. That is the role of technology experts; to make sure that computers meet the needs of people, not for people to modify their behavior to meet the limitations of the ability of programmers. I am not willing to alter my use of language to fit a computer program. I am a teacher with 10 years of experience teaching English in 4 countries. As to RyagonIV's advice-giving, what are his qualifications? I am a teacher and Duolingo has a copy of my Master's degree and CV thus designating me as an educator. I see no such designation on his profile.
Answered 'today is my birthday and i am drink' but duolingo was not amused.
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There are several people here asking the same question. There are two ways to say each of the following: I am; you are; he, she, it is; we are; they are. You can say each by conjugating either the verb ser: to be or the verb estar; to be. There are many places to look up the full and complex explanation of when you use each - but as a first step for many of you, just remember the letter T is in "Estar" to remind you it is for a Temporary condition. Anything permanent use SER. So "It is my birthday" (your birthday is a permanent day of the year and never will change so use the third person singular form of SER : ES. "I am excited" - that is a temporary condition so use the verb ESTAR. In this case first person singular: ESTOY.
I am a woman: Yo soy una mujer. I am sick today. Estoy enfermo hoy. YO and ESTOY both are I am or I'm. It depends on the meaning. It has nothing to do with the contraction. This is a link that will help with all the ser/estar issues. https://studyspanish.com/grammar/lessons/serest1
Why bet in real speaking its just always "estoy" than "yo estoy". If i say estoy emocionado or yo estoy emo... Its all same
I'm not completely certain what you're asking, but the "yo" before the verb isn't needed and is often dropped.
The speaker is a female and I answered "emocionada" and was counted wrong because I should have said "emocionado." Why?
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The sentence says emocionado and the speaker says emocionado. The speaker is not necessarily talking about herself here.
I translated "emocionado" to "excited" and it was deemed incorrect. Do they not have the same meaning?
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The sentence is registered as emocionado in the database, and the voices just read the sentences as they are. You can imagine the female voice being a teacher who talks from a male perspective, not about herself.
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There is no particular reason for that. Sometimes Duolingo's contraction system (which makes "I am" equal to "I'm") doesn't work properly.
As I say multiple times, it's either a glitch or it's false information.
(Also, seeing how you typed this, maybe it's capitalization. Though, I believe that Duolingo doesn't factor capitalization into it. Just a guess.)
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Chzlvr, "im" is not a word. "I'm" has the required apostrophe because it substitutes for the "a" in order to make one word out of two, forming the contraction in English for "I am" All those who were counted wrong for "I am" should report it until it gets the attention of the moderators, and they fix it. (I'M an American English speaker.) ¡Buena suerte!
Im is literally a different word without the apostrophe. The correct answer is Today is my birthday and I'm excited.
Duolingo can get confused with word conjunctions often. Just report it and be on your way.
With the man's voice I think it sounds like: "Hoy es mi cumpleaños, sí, estoy emocionado"
I said "today's" and it said the answer was "today is". How very ridiculous.
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Duolingo has an issue with subject-verb contractions that are not made up of personal pronouns, because, frankly, there are too many of them to consider.
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The issue isn't the contraction, it is the contextual meaning of the sentence. Like so many others who are asking the same question, you used the conjugation of "ser" when you should have used "estar" or vice versa. Read this: There are several people here asking the same question. There are two ways to say each of the following: I am; you are; he, she, it is; we are; they are. You can say each by conjugating either the verb ser: to be or the verb estar; to be. There are many places to look up the full and complex explanation of when you use each - but as a first step for many of you, just remember the letter T is in "Estar" to remind you it is for a Temporary condition. Anything permanent use SER. So "It is my birthday" (your birthday is a permanent day of the year and never will change so use the third person singular form of SER : ES. "I am excited" - that is a temporary condition so use the verb ESTAR. In this case first person singular: ESTOY.
I am a woman: Yo soy una mujer. I am sick today. Estoy enfermo hoy. YO and ESTOY both are I am or I'm. It depends on the meaning. It has nothing to do with the contraction. This is a link that will help with all the ser/estar issues. https://studyspanish.com/grammar/lessons/serest1
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I find it confusing to hear a female voice say "estoy emocionado" rather than 'emocionada".
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On this one I typed 'I am' and it was wrong, estoy apparently means 'I'm' only. On the next one (Esta mañana estoy muy cansado.) I wrote 'This morning I'm very tired' - correct. Guess what another correct solution was! 'This morning I am very tired' ^_^
it doesen't even matter which way it goes today is my birthday i'm excited is the right way why is it wrong
It should have been "Today it is my birthday" instead of 'Today is my birthday".
yes, wordreference lists "emotional" as a translation. Further it lists "touched" and "moved" which would closer synonyms of "emotional" than "excited". There all related, but one could be excited and not touched and moved.
I am not hearing the audio and getting these marked as incorrect any body else with this problem?
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That might happen if you have a wonky connection. It often helps to click or tap on the speaker symbol a few times.
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The ampersand (&) should not be used in continuous text, but only in trademark names and similar, like in "Marks & Spencer".
The ampersand is common in informal writing. While you correctly but incompletely quoted Wikipedia in your answer, including the example of Marks & Spencer, it lacked nuance. A more nuanced correct answer would be something like this ... While the ampersand (&) is commonly used in informal writing, Duolingo marked it wrong because the website marks answer based upon the formal usages of English. In formal English the ampersand is used in trademarks and in some common abbreviations. RyagonIV, in your copy & paste haste, you left off the usage of the ampersand in abbreviations like B&B (Bed and Breakfast). You might try expanding your research material with Grammar Girl (quickanddirtytips.com).
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Granted, I left out the use of the ampersand in abbreviations, but neither did I quote the Wikipedia here nor was absolute nuance my goal.
Without nuance, you remain in a remain in a copy n paste mentality of linguistic fundamentalism. I'm done parsing words with you. My argument stands on its merits.
In giving, "Today is my birthday and I'm excited., Duolingo got their English wrong. I wrote it correctly and was marked wrong. Correctly punctuated this sentence should read as being, "Today is my birthday, and I'm excited." Without the comma, I responded with, "Today is my birthday and am excited." My answer was both a correct translation and correctly written in English. Duolingo, you screwed up!
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"Today is my birthday and I'm excited" is a perfectly fine English sentence. You don't need a comma there, and in most cases it would look off.
Are you an English teacher? I am. An independent clause (IC) is defined as having a subject and predicate. An IC can stand alone as a sentence. "Today is my birthday" is an independent clause. "I'm excited" is also an independent clause. To connect two independent clauses with a conjunction ("and" in this case), the structure is IC, and IC. It may be common to leave out the comma, but it is a grammar error.
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There are many people on here that say they are teachers, but they still get things wrong. Nothing personal, but I need more sources for that. :)
"Today is my birthday" and "I'm excited" are both main clauses. They can stand alone as sentences. If you combine two of them with a conjunction like "and", "or", or "but", you'll end up with a compound sentence. As you can see in the OED's examples, no comma is used in them. See also the example sentences for "and" in Conjunction 1.2.
Looking deeper into it, Grammarly, for instance, is adamant on the comma before "and" in such a compound sentence. It also matches your terminology with "independent clauses". Is it because it's an American company? Are you American? This might play a lot into it and seems to be a difference between the Englishes that I'm not aware of.
Your other sentence, "Today is my birthday and am excited" does not work since you can only leave the subject out of the second clause if it matches the subject in the first. There is no "I" to complete your "am".
Yes, I'm an American. As to my credential, I submitted that to Duolingo which is why I am classified as an educator on this platform. My Masters of Arts in Teaching comes from Pacific University (2008). As to your final thoughts regarding the exclusion of the "I," you are using a word-for-word (literal) translation approach while I use the thought-for-thought (idiomatic) approach. The word "my" implies a self-referential making the "I" to be understood. If you keep to your word-for-word translation approach, you'll never really be fluently bilingual. I guess you're not really the "cunning linguist" you claim to be in your profile, or so I've heard.
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I mean, that sentence with the missing "I" is understandable, of course, but it's ... at least dubious from a grammar standpoint. It gives me shivers. :´)
Also I am fluent in two languages. I'm a native German-speaker explaining Spanish grammar in English. :)
Yes, you are explaining grammar in English, but making errors at least from an American English perspective. As to your fluency, you are judging yourself only. At least my claim of being a teacher is backed by both a Masters degree and by Duolingo. Being understood is not the same as fluency.
Fluency is internalizing the beat the rhythm of the language, thought, and world view of the people who live the world through the lens of that language, who tell stories with that language, who eat, drink, breathe, and dream in that language. I'm done parsing words with you. Try doing some of your own thinking, then try it again in another language and see if you see the difference.
Today is my day, my day, and no matter what they sayyy yeyeyeyeyeyeye
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hoy es mi cumpleanos y estoy emocionado hoy es mi cumpleanos si, estoy emocionado both sound the same in conversational spanish
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Ser (with the form soy) and estar (with the form estoy) are two different verbs, but they both translate as "to be" in English. Ser is used to describe identities, characteristics, and times in Spanish, while estar is used for states, conditions, and locations of objects. Since emocionado is a feeling, a state, estoy is used here.
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In English we would always say "It's my birthday today..." not "Today is my birthday..." Duolingo should allow this word order.
In reality, today is MY birthday.
However, I'm not excited because it means I am now a year older.
(Anglohablante)
