https://www.duolingo.com/Jeffrey855877

Please don't use italics in Russian - Request to moderators and users

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In reading Verbs in the Present 1 - Tips and notes, I couldn't figure out some of the infinitives given there, until I realized that the moderators were using Russian italics.

Russian italics don't just slant characters, they change them, some in quite remarkable ways. For example, Russian italic т = т, which looks much more like it's an italic м (which is м).

Dealing with Cyrillic characters is difficult enough for beginners, so adding the confusion of Russian italics to the mix is making an arduous task even more difficult, so I request that people not use Russian italics in entering text on Duolingo.

8 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Shady_arc
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I changed the formatting of these tips. They should be fine now.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jvegacastro
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In Spanish it is almost the same as Russian, we are taught both methods of writing, I personally like the cursive writing of Russian and it is important to learn it since it is used as well as the print. There are studies which show that the brain requires more skill and attention when it is written in italics. There is a large amount of sheets and books for the practice of writing on the internet.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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The US is no longer teaching cursive for English because of budget cuts. So, many English speakers, including native and non-native speakers are unable to read cursive at all anymore. :(

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LaurianaB
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Exactly. And it's a shame, because kids seem to not be able to even write print well anymore, much less cursive. But I'm not going to let my kids grow up without learning both print and cursive in Latin and Cyrillic alphabets. ))

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Theron126
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Italics maybe didn't have to be introduced at that point, but you will encounter them everywhere, both in the internet and in the real world, so learning to read them is absolutely essential. The differences are rather few and fairly easy to keep straight once you're aware of them.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ElAleph3
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It's not a matter of italics vs non-italics. What you have to keep in mind is that cyrillic "м" never ever looks like latin "m". Whenever you encounter the latter in a cyrillic context, it's a "т", a lowercase "Т". And you have to get used to it because it's absolutely everywhere (and it's the only way to write it in cursive letters)

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jvegacastro
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I agree.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pye20
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A nice problem, so many options from which to choose:

Cursive and print [ · javascript strokes · http://www.russianforeveryone.com/RufeA/Lessons/Introduction/Alphabet/Alphabet.htm · ]

[ · anotated strokes https://appgrooves.com/app/learn-russian-alphabet-writing-by-deepak-rahangdale ]

[ · Развивающие материалы для детей всех возрастов · http://детский-мир.net/Раскраски/40/415/ · ]

[top 20 Apps · https://appfelstrudel.com/.../alternative-to-learn-russian-alphabet-writing-printed-alpha... · ]

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/debiwebi

I feel your pain. After I had finally learned the typed Russian alphabet, someone sent me a document in italics and I freaked, thinking I had somehow missed a bunch of letters. Then I realize italics changes things. I'm still learning to read and write in cursive, which is mostly not too difficult as most of the letters are not that different. THEN a friend's mother in SPb wrote a recipe for me--adding confusion with her personal writing style and the shaky scribbles of an 80-something year old. I guess I won't be making that apple tart any time some. Unless someone wants to help translate for me. :-)

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/duodawg2

agreed.

however, i'm not sure if it's the italics itself that changes the letters, or whether the fact that it's italics written in russian cursive that changes the letters.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sple00

It's hard in the beginning and maybe not the first you want to learn. But don't forget to learn cursive before going to Russia. They use cursive in printed text all the time so you need to know how to read them.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Cogito17
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All those letters were presented and explained in the "Tips and notes" section of the very first lesson of this course. Please pay more attention next time.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Arthur102413

hi whats up i just lost a 305 day streak

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Theron126
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Given that the last streak you lost was 12 days, and you don't even have enough XP to have done 305 days, you'll pardon me if I disbelieve you.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheophileFo

Oh, yes, and by the way, please do not use the cyrillic script either. And while we are at it, please do not use Russian in the lessons, because it is too difficult. Just stick with recipes to cook borsht. Er, well rather shashliks... No, no, let's say jell-o

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Theron126
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That's uncalled for.

8 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JulesF.
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ikr

8 months ago
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