"They are leaving in the evening."
Translation:Ellas salen en la tarde.
All my Spanish background suggests that "they" translates to ellos unless the sentence indicates that they are female in which case it becomes ellas. In past lessons Duolingo has accepted either ellos or ellas if it is not specified what sex "they" are. Please share with me why ellos wouldn't be accepted here, but ellas would.
ellie, your understanding is wrong. Duolingo accepts all valid forms of gender/formal/informal/person/singular/plural in all its exercises. There is no need to assume anything.
If you make a mistake anywhere in your answer, Duo will correct you with ONE answer, probably its favorite answer. Many other answers are accepted, generally, in all its exercises.
In short: look for an error elsewhere.
It should only be wrong if you were only given audio. In that case, you have to write exactly what the voice says (even though it can be difficult to differentiate between ellos and ellas or nosotros and nosotras).
If you were given the English text "They are leaving in the evening." then ellos should absolutely be accepted.
Agreed! As a former educator I have believed as mentioned in a "Faculty Focus" article that "Wrong answer options expose students to misinformation, which can influence subsequent thinking about the content. This is especially true if students carefully consider the options and select an incorrect one after having persuaded themselves that it’s right." Obviously if the correct answer isn't even provided, multiple choice questions are even more ineffective....
SALEN !! ? Where did that come from? Duo is just throwning in words we have never even seen before ! On looking it up, it translates as, 'they leave' , so what we have here is - 'They they leave in the evening' Is this usual in Spanish? It is very unusual in English, unless someone suffers from a stammer.
"Salen" is the verb form used to conjugate with the 3rd person plural "ellos/ellas". Because of the way Spanish verbs conjugate with their subjects, it is possible (though not necessary) to drop "ellos/ellas" and still know that the verb "salen" is communicating "they leave" even though the verb itself means "leave". It is only necessary to include the pronoun if there is a reason to specify whether "they" are males or females.
Both salir and irse correspond to leave in English. However, I tend to associate salir more with go out and tend to use it when I am specifying the place I am leaving from. In situations where the place I'm leaving from is not specified, I tend to use irse. I don't know if that is how natives use it, but I do know that "se van en la tarde" is slightly more frequently found on web pages than "salen en la tarde" (by a factor of 1.4:1).
In contrast, "salen de la casa" is more frequent than "se van de la casa" by a factor of 1.6. In graphic form:
Exactly. My rule of thumb is this:
If I truly mean "right now" as in "right this very moment," I use the present progressive.
If, on the other hand, I am trying to get an answer correct for Duolingo, I'll do one of two things. If I see a time marker (e.g., the word ahora), then I consider the use of the present progressive unnecessary and just go with the simple present tense (i.e., salen vs. están saliendo).
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There is nothing to suggest that "they" are all female so "ellos" should be the correct translation! Also, agree with JoyaJoyce that the drop down hints do not have "salen" as an option so how are we supposed to get it right? I only view hints if absolutely necessary but only after typing my answer. I have often typed a correct answer but amended it according to the dropdown hints to avoid losing a heart, only to be marked incorrect! Very frustrating and misleading!!!
That answer is in the Correct Solutions list. I think you must have had an unnoticed error in what you actually submitted.
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For now, at least be assured that your translation here in the forum is good.
Ellos and ellas are both accepted. If you were marked wrong, look for an error. If there was an error, Duo presents only one correct solution, but many others are also accepted.
Duolingo routinely accepts all possible valid gender/formal/informal/person alternatives in all its lessons.
A noun can be any gender they want in Spanish. Tarde (and clase and noche) are feminine.
There are some rules for guessing gender, and they are useful, but they are not rules as in laws. They are rules as in rules of thumb, which means they are right most of the time but far from all the time.
The bottom line is that you have to memorize the gender of each noun.
But some teachers urge learners not to try to memorize. We learn from exposure and repetition. With enough exposure, it comes by itself.
Answers using "noche" or "tarde" are in the Correct Solutions list.
If you tried to use "noches" or "tardes" it would be incorrect.
This is because the definite article "the" requires the noun to be singular.
If that does not provide the explanation you need, please share your full submission so it can be completely checked.
Answers using "ellos" are in the Correct Solutions list.
If your answer is marked as incorrect and you want to engage the user forum, it is always best to share your full submission so it can be completely checked.
As you believe you have typed a sentence that is in the correct solutions list, if possible, please capture a screenshot to share with the user forum so that we can try to see what went wrong.