Hawaiian is coming to Duolingo!
‘Ōlelo Hawaiʻi (Hawaiian language) is one of the official languages of Hawaiʻi, along with English. Though now classified as an endangered language, a decades-long revitalization effort has created a growing pool of speakers.
We’re incredibly excited to be a part of this movement by helping to create a Hawaiian for English speakers Duolingo course!
Damn why did this comment get downvoted? I'm also ecstatic abot Hawaiian coming to duolingo ,it has been in my language bucket list for such a long time, but the audio for the swahili course is also something myself and a lot of people have been waiting for since a long time ago. I think that Duolingo should prioritize finishing for good this course before continuing with any other ones. I do know it's not directly duolingo's fault and all that, but I think that duolingo should step in and try to help the course progress, specially because the contributors told us in their last update that they were manually recording all the audio and that it was almost ready to be submited to the course.
I don't believe Duolingo would bother announcing it if their plans were now not to add audio but they have never mentioned a thing about delays. It's never coming. They have both had people give up their time recording for no reason and left an update promising audio when it is not coming.
How in the world have you gotten to 25 in that many languages? How much time do you dedicate to language learning a day?
Only when they use a TTS. Some courses (such as Esperanto) have real recorded sentences, these are handled differently.
Swahili course said they weren't using TTS. They did recording sessions for human audio.
Aw that sucks. I think it will come but there’s no telling when. Hope it doesn’t take 3 more years.
I see no link there and Google hasn't been of help when I searched for such an extension, if there was one, it has probably been removed.
I am its creator :) I have been working on it for the past month give or take and it should be ready shortly.
Asante kwa bidii yako Sean! (=Thanks for your effort!) Will you post a link for the plugin in the Swahili forum once you're ready?
Yes, I will post the link to the chrome extension store for it once it is ready. Stay tuned!
They said it was coming in one or two weeks, one year is more than enough time to add sound files which were already recorded or to develop a robot voice. It seems to me they no longer have any intention of adding sound to Swahili.
The Swahili course generally is not in a great shape. :( Unfortunately a lot of courses are being neglected by Duolingo, despite the contributors' efforts.
Yup they most likely bailed out on Swahili, that's sad considering it's the only African language on duo at the time...
I love Duolingo so am not complaining, but there are over 2000 languages spoken in Africa. Granted, some of them are European languages because of colonialism, and Swahili is one of the more spoken languages, but I'd like to see Xhosa or Zulu or even Afrikaans.
True. They should really focus on finishing off a course completely before announcing another one 'coming to Duolingo'
Except that it's not how the incubator works. Each course is run by a independent team of volunteers - unless there are folks working on the Swahili course (or any of the others) that are also on the new one, it's not really Duo's call.
I mean, heck, look at how long some of the languages have been incubating without ever getting done. And then there're those that come through blazing fast.
I was an alpha tester for the Swahili course, and they said it was all in Duolingo's hands now. Everything is recorded, but they haven't heard anything back just like us afaik.
It seems that something has happened because I don't know why it would take more than a year to add. I wish they would at least say something rather than just ignoring us.
OK, but the audio for Swahili was actually recorded a long time ago by the volunteers and Duolingo is yet to add it.
Yeah! I wish they would add it: would make it a lot less "drafty/beta". If I didn't have previous Swahili lessons, it would be next to impossible to learn using this course.
It's sad Duolingo rejects our only African language. They can't bother to add audio after more than year.
Stoked! What about Navajo and/or another Native American language for the pipeline?
What about a South American native language like Quechua, or central American like Nahuatl
There's a South American native language called Guaraní that is available on Duolingo for Spanish speakers
Too bad it's everyday Guaraní-Spanish contact language (jopará) as opposed to actual grammatically, orthographically and lexically pure Guaraní.
I would love to learn Navajo. That would be amazing. Since there is a movement to save the language, I hope Duo looks into it.
I agree, that would be cool since they used Navajo code talkers in WWII. You're welcome for the Lingot btw.
I agree,I think they will add Navajo/or Cherokee soon. I hope people can help it on Duolingo Incubator.
I would imagine that Season 2 of Westworld has contributed to an increased interest in the Lakota languages.
Oh yeah! They’d be extremely difficult but it would be a good way to revive them.
You do realize that there were hundreds of different American Indian tribes, each with their own language? I guess you could pick one, or two, like Apache or Hopi, but someone would always say, "Why did you forget Navajo, Cheyenne, Blackfoot, Crow, or. . ." I guess they could pick one. It was interesting that the military used Navajo (I think it was) during WWII to prevent the enemy from deciphering what they were saying over the radio.
It's a little like the way Duolingo picked some European languages and someone always says "why did you forget Finnish?"
I served on a destroyer with some Phillipinos, and they told me that, even in that small country, there were over 72 different dialects of the Filipino (based on Tagalog) language, and few could understand one another. So, it's not just the language that is different, but often the dialect as well. Now, what to choose. . .what to choose. . .heh heh
I agree. I would LOVE to see Latin added to Duolingo so I could reinforce my knowledge of it.
I've always wanted to learn Latin and it would be great to learn it on a free language app such as Duolingo!
Hold on... If so much is known about Latin, then why doesn't anyone speak it native-ly? There are even native Esperanto speakers.
For the same reason no one speaks Sanskrit or classical Chinese natively. Languages change and evolve over time. In the case of Latin, it evolved into the modern day Romance languages.
It's also a matter of which languages parents decide to teach to their babies and toddlers, and why they choose the languages they choose.
Yes i know it evolved into the romance languages but why do they teach latin so much in schools if we only have texts?
I'm not personally interested in it but it would be pretty cool to see a Latin course!
Sweet! I always appreciate when something dying is saved from that.
Still waiting for Finnish though.
I think when they add Finnish, it will be like Hungarian. SO full of errors, as the languages said have almost the same grammar as they come from the same language family.
Most of the issues in the Hungarian course come from the language's very flexible word order, which is quite difficult to account for in translations.
It's really heartwarming to see Duolingo trying to help keep these languages alive. You get an OK hand from me!
I've learned a little bit. So far, I don't think the grammar is especially hard. The verb system is a lot easier than something like Spanish. I'm just not used to so many vowels in words and I think that makes it harder to remember words correctly.
See if your local library gives members access to Mango Languages. There are a lot of courses on there and the Hawaiian one has a decent amount of material! Take notes as you go.
I've tried learning it about seven or eight years back (gave up because there were few materials and no local classes either). One thing I can tell you is that I can still read and write it even though I didn't get far into it. It's just about THE easiest language to read. You can sound everything out.
My gf lived in Hawaii and last night told me the name of her favorite fish which was from there and it had like 15 syllables in its name. I was like “um, I will never learn to say that.”
Isn't it "HumuhumunukunukuapUa'a"? (This is about the only Hawaiian I know :-)
I understand agglutinative languages, and I like them (mostly Esperanto). But words like these are too complicated. How can you remember all of those syllables perfectly, especially when a lot of words are just as long? I would never be able to tell them all apart. Of course, I say this as I plan to take this course when it comes out :/
it's humuhumunukunukuap(u)a'a. I don't speak Hawaiian, but I do live on O'ahu and I can tell you that if you say it like that some crazy person will probably get triggered.
Actually, it's not complicated to say even long Hawaiian word. If you know what sound each letter and the glottal stop make, you can sound out any word no matter how long without learning a ton of grammar rules or exceptions.
It's easy to be intimidated by the length of the word, but just break it up. Humuhumunukunukuapua'a. It's humu twice, then kunu, then kua and pua'a. I still remember that pua is flower and pua'a is pig (not in the context of the fish, I'm sure, but a lot of Hawaiian words have several meanings). These big compound words are usually just combos of smaller words you'll also encounter, though what's tricky about Hawaiian is that putting them together changes the meaning.
I caught on to reading and writing Hawaiian very fast. I found it very intuitive compared to any other language I speak or am learning. I've been learning French for about three months and I cannot read unfamiliar words whatsoever. With Hawaiian, I could read any text in the language within weeks, even if I understood zero of it, I could make it sound like I could when reading. I still can even though I haven't practiced in years.
Listen to some Keali'i Reichel songs with lyrics on the screen to get a feel for the alphabet before the course comes out.
well the words will all be long as Hawaiian doesn't allow for consonant or vowel clusters from what I've heard... That's about all I know about it though
Well there are always words like a’a. A rough type of lava. (Pahoehoe is smooth lava). :-)
I've heard people tell other people that it is especially easy to say Aiea even when you're drunk. Also, Michelle497794, what island do you live on?
Michelle497794, I live on Oahu as well! I mean, there are almost a million people living here so it's not that surprising. What part of the island do you live on?
We do have some of those in Portuguese and Spanish, plenty more in the vernacular variants, and even more if you count consonant-dropping in pronunciation (like h, which is mostly mute).
Aren't those similar to the English, scientific words for different types of viscosity when referring to lava? I kind of remember these from 8th grade earth science unit...wow, that was 3 years ago. nostalgic music plays
They are in fact Hawaiian words that have been adopted by geologists, but yes they do describe the viscosity. Thanks for the nostalgic music clip! Lol
From my loose understanding of it, phonetically and syntactically its very easy. The hardest thing I faced in my 2 weeks (i think) of light study years back, was remembering what words mean what. Hawaiian doesnt have too many distinct phonemes, so instead of short words being pronounced very different, there are lots of confusing minimal pairs and also looong words. Disclaimer though, i am absolutely not an expert, soooo
I only know one Hawai'ian word aside from the basic ones like Aloha that everyone knows, and that's "Ke'alakūpaoaikawelo," Which means "The fragrance that reminds you of your legacy." So all I can say is that there are a lot of prefixes and suffixes.
Nice choice!! I’m excited to see Duolingo working on an endangered language AND a Pacific Islander language. This is far more interesting than Klingon.
I like the impression of ʻIolani Palace! It's really a nice place to check out when visiting Honolulu :)
Hey, hozit bra? You one local boy? Pidgin is my second language. No can on Duo!
Congrats!! It is sad to think of so many languages are becoming extinct. Let's keep them alive!! Thank you, Duolingo! Great Work!!
Ooh yay I'm definitely gonna learn Hawaiian but when is Hindi coming out?
I think it's really cool Duolingo is adding Hawaiian. Even though most people are complaining Duolingo doesn't have all kinds of languages, however this is a big step. Plus we could really be saving a language here.
It’s cool but Duo is not “saving” the language .... there are many native speakers who are already doing that in Hawaii and have worked tirelessly over the past decades to keep it alive....so I give credit where credit is due. It’s taught at the University and many immersion schools and even in the public schools. However, Duo will increase interest and hopefully number of those fluent in the language by providing an avenue of learning not available to those who live outside the state. It is a beautiful and often poetic language, with many words for different types of rain, wind, etc.
I bought a Hawaiian dictionary years ago and now I can put it to good use! Very excited for this course!
I am so happy to see that Duolingo is now going to support a non-European endangered language. Keep it up!
Awesome! I just went to Hawaii and I'm really happy that there's a course now! And barely anyone speaks it, but I think a lot of Duo-ers will take the course. That's actually a big deal.
Hawaiian sounds a fun language to learn... I'm probably not going to start another new language for quite some time though- but maybe one day.
What I would love to see is Latin. I'm surprised there is still no Latin on Duolingo despite it being frequently requested based upon the forum history.
But- not to get sidetracked. I'm glad Hawaiian is coming; even if I never learn it, it might help preserve Hawaiian as an active language.
If you look on the Duolingo Incubator thingy, it says you have to be bilingual to become a contributor. This means that someone would have to find all the resources and stuff and then learn it to an extent such that they could be classified as biliangual, if they don't already speak two languages. I don't know much about Latin, but I don't think there are many people that speak Latin to any extent. So, it's a "too bad" for all of us...
The reason that Latin is still taught in high schools, for example, is for the student to gain a better understanding of English and how the words were derived. This would be especially important if the student was interested in entering the medical field. From that aspect, it is still a relevant language to learn. But, you are right. You'll not find many people speaking Latin. Que lastimas.
There are many people who teach Latin professionally, even though they're not native speakers.
I bet that if Duolingo decided to teach Latin, it would count these people who teach Latin in high schools and universities as qualified if they applied.
Aloha kākou (greetings) to all. It's so exciting to see that Duolingo will have a Hawaiian course, yet so humbling at the same time that our language from such a tiny corner of the world would be chosen among thousands of beautiful tongues, many of which people have been waiting for for a long time.
I assure you that contrary to popular belief, ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi is not dying, but thriving! Efforts for revitalization of the language have been taking place for decades, resulting in a community of tens of thousands of fluent speakers today, a miracle when you consider that speakers numbered just a few hundred in the 1970's. Never before has there been such an interest among Hawaiians in traditional culture and language than this moment!
As we're all waiting for the course to hatch, (and let's be honest, it'll probably be a while :) ) I'd like to provide a few links to some youtube videos below that give great cultural insights and allow you to hear the Hawaiian language as it is spoken in Hawaiʻi today. All three videos are a fascinating glimpse into modern Hawaiʻi and well worth a look. Hopefully you'll be even more hyped up to learn this language after watching them!
Video 1: Focuses on the beginnings of Hawaiian immersion programs that started in the 1980's and one native speaker's role in revitalizing the language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPremdnxQ0Q
Video 2: A short clip about how literacy is taught in Hawaiian immersion preschools. (Fun fact: In the late 19th century Hawaiʻi had a 98% literacy rate, the highest in the world at that time.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYs9wOUxsE
Video 3: A look at traditional hula dancing and its cultural significance to Hawaiians. A far, far cry from the pseudo-hula hip shaking, hand waving stuff most outsiders sadly think passes for the real thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdor0ge54w
It says "Estimated Completion Date: June 22, 2018" isn't that like tomorrow?
Chinese was published about a week after it was announced I think, so you never know
No way, Chinese took much more than just a week, but yeah it didn't took forever like the Hindi course, which I've been waiting for since the 1800s or something.
Finally! I've been waiting for so long to learn Hawaiian! I'm so glad it's being restored and revived by Duolingo. Thank you guys so much. I can't wait to start learning!
I have been interested in Samoan since I visited there 3 years ago. Never thought that a similar language would see its way through to Duolingo. Excellent!
Woohoo! I love Hawaii and it’s language. We have to keep these more unknown languages from dying off. I really hope that Icelandic appears too. It’s a beautiful language and I think that it would be a fun challenge for others to learn it’s difficult pronunciation. And because I’m sort of a conlang nerd, I think they should add Na’vi too ;)
I can't wait! I have learned some Hawaiian before when I used to take Hula lessons. I know the basics, but it was a really long time ago(seven years). This is going to be so much fun!
Cool ! I would love to see: Farsi/Urdu/Pashto, Tamil, Haitian (or better: Martinican) Creole or Thai coming to Duo as well !
Pleaaaaaase !! :)
I really want some more Southeast Asian language.
What if they added dialects as additions to existing courses like Shanghainese?
It takes a lot of time to make new language courses. Give duolingo the time they need, one should come up eventually.
I've always thought learning the language would be amazing, didn't think I would have the chance to! It's great to see this happening!
OMG I'm so excited, I am Keiki o ka aina, my linguistics classes are up at the Hawaiian language college and my linguistics professors all are learners, two haoles and a Japanese, Mahalo Duolingo and contributors
This is really cool! It would be really nice if Duolingo starts implementing more native tounges. Language is definitely a huge part of a culture.
Yay! A new course! Duolingo has it's first Polynesian language in the incubator!
According to this database, the Hawaiian language had only one thousand speakers worldwide in 2011, and that was seven years ago. Knowing this, I find it very promising and inspiring that Duolingo would bring this language back so as to give MILLIONS of people the opportunity to learn a language others would merely give up on and let die.
I sincerely hope that Hawaiian can see a massive influx of speakers because of Duolingo's ambitious decision to bring the language to Duolingo for millions across the globe to speak. Hawaiian may not ever die because of a wise decision to bring this language to hundreds of thousands of people like this for free! In addition, I hope Duolingo takes on even more ambitious efforts to revive endangered and dying languages so relics of history as massive and fundamental as texts and languages themselves cannot be merely lost to the history books!
Duolingo's not exactly bringing the language back, it's supporting the efforts of Hawaiians in bringing the language back. :)
This is one of the top languages I would love to learn! I was born in Hawaii, but moved shortly after so I've always felt disconnected from the island chain, this'll feel like a little piece of my birth place and I can't wait! Truly, thank you Duo
Hopefully some Indian languages will come soon... Hawaiian is a great language for DL.
This is great that Duolingo is going to do this class. I'm really curious to learn more about indigenous American languages. I'd really like to see more coming. I know that Rappahannock people have been trying to revitalize their language (including teaching it to outsiders), they're smaller but maybe Duo could work with them too?
Yay! Thanks Duolingo! Please make more, i noticed with aboout half the languages that you speak there's only English you can learn :( please help that!
This is great news. I was hoping that language would get a course on Duolingo but thought it would not happen anytime soon. My only worry is that like Swahili it may never get audio.
"CHEHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!"-Maui This is AWESOME! I've always wanted to learn Hawaiian, and love this. Can't wait for them to add Filipino... PLEASE ADD FILIPINO
Great! One more interesting language to learn! Now waiting for Persian and Sanskrit!
I've been wanting this FOREVER. Hawaiian sounds so cool, and there aren't many free resources out there. This is a dream come true to me.
How exciting! I learned Hawaiian in school but have lost nearly all of my vocabulary through the years, it would be great to relearn it.
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono
Iolani Palace — How wonderful. I'm really looking forward to studying an Oceanic language, although I would have been equally happy had Duolingo selected Te Reo Māori, Tongan or Reo Tahiti. However, the urgency of teaching ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi is greater, since it is now reduced to perhaps 2,000 speakers, while its three sister languages all have over 150,000 speakers.
Maybe one of the lesson units could be on history, telling of the aliʻi, like King Kamehameha, King Kalākaua and Queen Liliʻuokalani and the overthrow of the monarchs by the missionaries and sugar planters. Another lesson could be on the art of surfing (hoe he'e nalu) and surfboards (papa he'e nalu).
I am super excited about this. I have always wanted to learn this language I think it is so beautiful.
Thank you so much for the upcoming hawaiian course. I know Duolingo will do it with great respect and passion.
yay im so exited I can finaly learn Hawaiian to speak to my Hawaiian pizza, thank you for this opportunity guys!!!!!
It's been on my wish list for a couple of years, so I will definitely give it a try.
It is nice that Duolingo is adding the language but they are not unique —- for those who think it isn’t taught elsewhere —- there are many charter schools here in the islands that teach the language, Hawaiian immersion courses, Univ. of Hawaii studies in Hawaiian Language and Culture, Kamehameha Schools which was established for students with native Hawaiian bloodlines, as well as hula halau (groups) that learn the traditional chants all in Hawaiian. Laws have been passed to ensure all new streets are given Hawaiian names.
There are only 8 consonants and 5 vowels. I think many people will be fascinated with the language and you will hopefully also learn a great deal about the culture. Aloha!
In Hawaii, yes. I've tried learning it seven or eight years ago and gave up because there was just so little material and no local classes if you are not in Hawaii. I had one beginners CD course and couldn't find anything else to go on. No workbooks, no textbooks for the general public. Now granted, that was in 2010, but for your average person outside of Hawaii it's not easy to find resources for Hawaiian.
If you aren't in the US? Forget about it. Mango is the only place I can think of that has Hawaiian and it's US only. And that's only if a library near you/your local library has it. Not all of them do. So for non US folks and folks that don't have Mango at their library, it might as well be the only place where they can learn Hawaiian. We can't all travel there and take an immersion course.
I'm sorry, Canada. You guys are often forgotten, eh?
What I meant is that if you're not in North America, you cannot access Mango. And not EVERY library in North America does participate. If you are more rural, especially, it's likely that they don't.
If you take French, Spanish or even something like German, Portuguese, Italian or Mandarin there will most likely be language classes locally regardless of where you live, plus your library will likely have SOME materials for the language, plus you can buy a ton of textbooks, audio programs, computer programs, workbooks, graded readers and tons of books written in that language. For Hawaiian, it's not that easy.
Yes - and maybe some of these teachers will use Duolingo for Schools with their Hawaiian language classes. :)
I didn’t mean to imply it is taught outside Hawaii. I totally understand it is too hard for those who don’t live here to find resources to learn it. It just happened that a few posts implied that it wasn’t available at all. I hope the immersion schools do use Duo along with their other methods! It is a treasure and cultural awareness and respect, along with individuals who refused to let it go, kept it from being forgotten altogether. Performers like Israel Kamakawiwoʻole getting their voices heard, proud to be Native Hawaiians.
I will be interested in hearing the robot voices pronunciation, because everyone in the islands makes fun of “Garmin” trying to pronounce street names.
No, I do not speak it myself. There are similarities in other Polynesian languages like Māori and Tahitian, words that orginally came from the same shared source, with similar meaning, like “taboo” and “kapu”. (There is no T sound in Hawaiian so the pronunciation evolved.) I hope to learn more, and I am interested in which native speakers will be or are involved with developing the Duolingo program or being involved with discussions because it is incredibly important to hear their input.
Michelle497794, I'm referring to your statement of the language being easily learned due to the few consonants and vowels... Well, for locals or maybe even US-citizens, it might be true.
I live in Germany, Europe... almost on the other side of the globe (12 hours time difference to Hawai'i to underline it ;-) ...) I wanted to learn this language for years. But here in my area (speaking not only of the city I work in but about the whole region if not even the whole country) there aren't any resources, courses or whatsoever. you also cannot speak with natives because you won't find any here. We do have language courses in general, but rather like the bigger ones (e.g. French, English, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Chinese and such) - but even they aren't guaranteed to take place because it needs a specific amount of people to enroll in a course to make it happen.
I also looked for online resources but couldn't find that much which was helpful... So I am hoping that this course will be finished and ready sooner or later. I know some basic hawaiian words (nouns and verbs) due to my own research and learning "trials", but I can't even build a sentence with it.
So, I made a post about this 3 days ago, and it got deleted. Why? Was I too early? Did you guys want to make a post about it yourself? Btw I won't give a hoot about the downvotes at the moment :P
This is so great, I'm so happy that they're working on endangered languages. I would personally love to see Malay, since Malay is very different from Indonesian, and the Vietnamese audio.
I've already memorized the Hawaiian alphabet in my head. (AEIOUHKLMNPW)
This is amezing! the first polynesian language, I hope It comes even more like rapanui.
This is so exciting :D my best friend travelled there and loved it, would be great to learn some Hawaiian <3
OOOOHHHH THIS IS SO COOL <(0v0<) I can't wait to see this! X3 (Also could you please add Latin? I am not the only one that is dying to learn that language!)
Very cool and a great way to help preserve a really interesting culture. I'll be signing up when I can!
nice to FINALLY see a Pacific Island language coming. Though it doesn't have as many speakers as Te Reo (Maori), or Gagana Samoa (Samoan), Hawaiian is still a lovely choice!
This is so cool. I didn't even know the language still existed! I saw at travel book about Hawaii recently and NO mention of the native language! I was so disappointed. The words I do know sound similar to Japanese, which I am studying now. So cool!
I agree. In priority (from my point of view): 1. Arabic 2. Hindi 3. Serbo-Croatian 4. Finnish 5. Latin 6. Thai-Lao 7. Indonesian 8. Farsi 9. Bulgarian 10. Hawaiian 11. Albanian 12. Hausa 13. Filipino or Tagalog 14. Peul 15. Burmese 16. Ancient Greek 17. Khmer 18. Malaysian 19. Tahitian, Samoan or Maori 20. Haitian Creole or Guadeloupean Creole or Bislama 21. Afrikaans 22. Zulu or Xhosa 23. Slovenian 24. Slovakian (it's here because it's very close to Czech) 25. Kazakh 26. Malayalam or Kannada 27. Bengali 28. Tamil 29. Punjabi 30. Telugu 31. Gurmukhi etc
Edit: Estonian as well as Latvian and Lithuanian would also be amazing! Basically, any language ;)
They already have 5 Romance languages and modern Greek. I think they should make those courses but they shouldn’t be a priority.
Yeah but there is not really a good place where you can learn those languages, it would be SO handy for my studies.
But i do think that they should prioritize languages that people can actually speak somewhere. Instead of ones that are dead.
And maybe Duolingo isn't really a place for Latin and ancient Greek, these languages are learned while simultaneously learning the culture, and they are not meant to be actually spoken, just for translating texts i think. For this to be possible Duolingo would have to change its whole system for us to be able to translate texts as a whole and annotate them, but also an ability to learn about the culture.
The Duolingo for Schools program, and the way Duolingo is so much better for the written part of a language than the spoken part, means that Latin would be especially appropriate for Duolingo. Imagine how many students it could help! :)
I am of course biased but I wouldn’t say Slovak is here just because Czech is. Or at the very least, since they created different courses for the closely related Scandinavian languages, I see no reason not to create a course for Slovak as well.
And as lizsue pointed out, four of those languages are already in development.
Everywhere you go, there will be at least one habesha, and amharic might be the only language they know. I think it's pretty helpful knowing. Duolingo should definitely add it.
So many of the languages on this list are already in Duolingo plans! :) Either there's already a course on the way that will teach the language, or a course on the way for speakers of the language (which makes it easier to later make a course teaching the language). :)
6 https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/en/th/status (this one's already in phase 3!)
10 this post ;)
I noticed that a lot of these are from the native language into English. I know a lot of people are able to do trees in reverse, but a majority would benefit from an English course into the language. Do you think that the contributors will ever make the tree for English, since they obviously know both languages?
Well, the majority are probably learners of English who are speakers of these languages and they actually do benefit immensely from these courses. Keep in mind that there's usually more pressure to learn English for the speakers of these languages than vice versa.
That's how a bunch of other languages got into Duolingo.
Russian for Spanish speakers entered Phase 1 after Spanish for Russian speakers reached Phase 3, Korean for English speakers entered Phase 1 after English for Korean speakers reached Phase 3, etc.
Thanks for the list! My uncle is from Pakistan, he speaks Punjabi, and I would very likely give Punjabi as well as any other language above a try!
I am a native Croatian speaker and I already sent them an email asking them can i start making a course for englisg speakers. Now I am just waiting to get a reply back.
I would be glad to see Serbo-Croatian on Duolingo. I don't know if they should be seperate or together on the same course, since both have different writing systems. Either way, it would be nice.
Awesome job Duolingo! I think I'll do Hawaiian (once I'm done with Spanish, Danish, Korean, and French! And also once it's out of the incubator.......). If anybody here knows Hawaiian, then sign up to contribute! They've only got one contributer so far (myra)
Nice, but what about Croatian, for example? Years of asking for it all in vain?
After this, I want to see a Catalan, Finnish, Cantonese and Cherokee course for English speakers
Some of those are on my to do list as well, also I'd love to see Basque and Frisian appearing too
What about Bengali for English speakers? It's a beautiful language and the 5th most spoken in the world.
Maybe a little while after English for Bengali speakers reaches Phase 3 of the Incubator? :)
Maybe a little while after English for Tagalog speakers reaches Phase 3 of the Incubator? :)
I'm looking forward to some different variety of languages that are even more interesting!
I'm tempted to give this a go, but I don't have any plans in the future to visit Hawaii.
Neat. Hawaiian has a pretty small sound inventory, so it should be easy to learn the grammar...right? Compound words shouldn't be that hard..Right?
Yes, it does have a small sound inventory compared to some other languages out there. However, that's also what makes it challenging. If you have a limited amount of sounds to express the same number of concepts in another language, the inevitable result is that you will have many more homophones, and this is certainly the case with Hawaiian. It's not uncommon for some words to have five or more different meanings completely unrelated to each other. Hawaiian poetry and music use this feature of the language extensively, and a big part of poetry is the kaona, or the hidden, deeper meaning beyond what is written. Sometimes the kaona may be known only to the author and a few close friends.
As for grammar, it's not the most grammatically complex language on Earth. There are no inflections, no real tense, and no conjugations, which is line with other Austronesian languages such as Indonesian. However, there are some challenging grammatical aspects, for example alienable vs. inalienable possessions and singular, dual, and plural numbers.
Well, actually, they have a small sound inventory, but they really make use of it. There are extended vowels I think they're called, and also diphthongs. So, let's do some math. There are 8 consonants, k,h,w/v,m,n,l,p, and the glottal stop ('). About the vowels, there are 5 main vowels (a, e, i, o, u) plus their extended versions and the 11 diphthongs equals 21 vowels thingies. That means that there are 8*21=168 different ways just to say one syllable! However, I don't know too much about the language and it may be less, but it seems scary sometimes.
(P.S. I am not saying that Hawaiian is a weird/scary language I'm just saying it could be complicated.)
Will other languages like Sesotho, Estonian, Maltese, Croatian, Chichewa, etc. be featured?
I can't wait!!!
Wow! Does anyone know how hard the sentence structure and pronunciation for Hawaiin is?
The sentence structure follows a verb-subject-object pattern which is the same with other Polynesian languages.
The pronunciation is very straightforward and not difficult at all, containing no sounds that are strange for English speakers and no consonant clusters. The biggest challenge I find English speakers have when speaking Hawaiian is pronouncing pure vowels, as English tends to turn almost everything into diphthongs.
I think itʻs great that ʻolelo Hawaiʻi will be added. The concern that I have after using the Japanese is frustration. Often my answers are "wrong" when they are correct in use, such as the word clothes being corrected for clothing.
Stuff like that isn't supposed to happen, if it does report it and set the reason to "My solution should be accepted", I think it was, then it should be fixed eventually.
Looking good! I've always wanted to learn a Polynesian language. Hawaiian is a Polynesian language, right?
I can't wait for Hawaiian it would be very unique (but I'm still waiting for Georgian)
I can't wait! The only Polynesian language I know (a little of) is Maori :D
Not if they release Indonesian first ^^
But it will indeed be our first Polynesian language!
This is a very good initiative! To give notice to disappearing languages!!!!
If you are looking to bring back languages classified as endangered, would you be thinking of Gaelic? From Ireland? Talking to Irish friends, my understanding is that the language only exists now in clubs and devoted groups that pretty much just speak amongst themselves. Of course, I've heard that there are over 2000 languages on this planet, soooooo. . .time to study more? Lol
No, but thanks for that. As you can note, I am working two languages now, focusing primarily on Spanish. Unlike many here, I would be lost trying to learn more than that at one time, although I truly do wish to learn Japanese. Might add that one later. But Irish would be a hoot, wouldn't it? ;-)
Know next to nothing of Hawaiian (or any polynesian languages). Will be nice to get an introduction to dipping my toe into their language and culture when the opportunity arises.
I would love to call dibs on an alpha spot! Ive been a long time lover of the hawaiian language and culture <3
Ahh, this is awesome! I’m from Hawaii so everyone expects me to speak it but i never took it in school. Now i’ll be able to learn!
im so excited!!! im from polynesian descent so i have no words to explain how thrilled i am to be able to learn hawaiian soon. plus, i love hawaii and want to be able to go to read the signs and communicate with natives. i even thought about how duolingo should ask Auli'i Cravalho for help lol
I appreciate the fact that you're doing all you can to preserve endangered languages:Irish,Welsh and now Hawaiian. I would be sure to check it out once avialable! ThanksDuolingo team!
While there seems to be a whole other conversations going on, let be the one to say: Holy Crap! YES! Finally! I've been wanting and pushing for this, and I know others have been too! I can't wait!!!
This is so awesome! Like all "endangered" languages struggling to achieve its former prestige, ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi is really in need of a larger speaking community. I think this has the potential to be a very impactful way to re-launch this beautiful language back into the mainstream consciousness.
As a Native Hawaiian who was raised by ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi, iʻm really happy to see people from all backgrounds learn to see how beautiful the world is when painted in the poetry of the Hawaiian language. While as a Kumu ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi (Hawaiian language teacher), iʻm really excited to incorporate this fun way of learning into my classroom. Let me know if thereʻs anything I can do to help make this course the best possible course possible! I ola mau ka ʻōlelo Hawaiʻi i ke kanaka! Hawaiian language thrives by its speakers!
Did you happen to have a posibilety to contribute to the course? I'd love to lean it one day, but richt now there aren't a lot of contributors for it
Please look into volunteering for the Hawaiian language. I think you could be a valuable asset to the course. I think you can do this by clicking "Jobs" at the bottom of the screen, then go under "teaching". I am in no way working for Duolingo, but I want to learn this language as I will help where I can.
No you have to go to the incubator site and then tap/click contribute to a course. Then you have to submit an application and duolingo will review it and hire you if they need you.
So what was the teaching tab for?
Is it for "general learning" : as in you know X amount of languages and can help out? Or is it to become a mod, which I am assuming you might be?
Applying to be a contributor is about offering to help constructing the course. You need for that to be fluent in both languages (not just knowing X amount of languages").
Or is it to become a mod [...] ?
Moderator is about keeping forums a safe and nice place by deleting comments that break Duolingo' s Guidelines and remind the comment's author about them, to help (but as any user) other learners, etc.
It's just about forums
Contributor is about courses' content.
which I am assuming you might be?
On forums, you can identify the person being either (Forum) Moderator, (Course) Contributor, (Event) Host, Duolingo Educator and Duolingo Insider because they will have a ring around their profile picture and when you hover over this ring, it tells you which one(s) of the 5 category the person belongs to.
Or more than one it seems...
Thanks for the info. I see those rings in different colors all the time, plus the little "mod" next to people's names. Now my suspicion is confirmed. Always nice to know who is a helper on DL.
I see those rings in different colors all the time
There are two colours : green and gold.
As soon as one is gold in one of the category, the ring will be gold (even if the user is "green" in other categories).
- For moderators:
- gold = moderators of all the (currently) 131 forums.
- green = moderator in at least one of the forums
- For contributors, gold are normally long-time contributors who have more edition-rights in the incubator for the course for which they are gold.
One can be gold-contrib for a course and green for another. In such case, they'll be considered as gold-contrib for the ring around their profile pic.
- For other Ambassadors categories: I don't know the differences.
But this colouring changes nothing about the fact to be (at least) in one of the category.
plus the little "mod" next to people's names
This means that the person has moderation rights on the specific forum to which the current discussion (where you see this "MOD" flag) belongs.
For example, this discussion is in the "General (in English)" forum and I have a "MOD" flag so it means that I'm a moderator of this specific forum.
yes, there is the possibility to apply for course contribution. but within the process and form to be filled, Duolingo claims to want people who are fluent in both languages. I'm very fluent in English.... but am only capable of very little Hawaiian - rather single words or expression, but not even full sentences. So even if I might be able to help with some vocabulary stuff, I would never be taken since I'm not fluent.
We will see, how long it will take to complete. And yes, Millie59511, I am also eagerly looking forward to this course as I want to learn this language for many many years. But sadly, here in my area it isn't possible at all due to the lack of resources etc. We do have language courses to be booked at public evening schools for people already in the job. but those are rather languages like English, French, Italian, Portuguese... the big ones, you name it. And even they are not guaranteed. I enrolled twice for a Swedish course which never happened due to the lack of participants. (we were only 3-4 people wanting to learn it and the minimum size of a group is 10)
Sucks that you couldn't get the Swedish group together. Sorry about that.
No matter what, I can't wait to start. And niahrya I can wait to see you in the discussions helping us all out with what you do know.
I am not trying to be negative but if I read another gay story like "honeymoon" I am deleting my account and will spread the word. trust !me you will have a great deal less supporters
This is really nice. It's refreshing to see a new language course in the Incubator, especially of a highly requested and endangered language. Thanks for opening the course, Duolingo!
Personally, I think it is great to try and experiment with different languages and see what you want to progress more in. I can understand how people might think that learning twenty languages at one time could be someone trying to show off, but that is not always the case. As other commenters have mentioned, everyone has a different learning style. OmegaGmaster might be able to learn multiple languages at one time whilst I can only learn one at a time. Lets also not overlook the fact that they might not be practicing or learning all twenty languages. As I said before, they might have just wanted to try the language. Anywho, the comments overall are hilarous and gave me laugh. Have a nice day y'all!
Yes, thank you Duolingo! I'm really looking forward to Hawaiian. :D
All these unnecessary negative comments though...
Maybe. Not much was known about Despacito until Thanos released Despacito 2, so it's quite possible.
Hi, OmegaGmaster !! How many languages can you speak good at ?? You learn so many languages, mate !! Most of them are at high levels to me !!
And despite having over 20 different English courses, thanks to Hawaiian, the British flag finally appears on Duolingo.
the British flag finally appears on Duolingo.
The flag of the United Kingdom finally appears on Duolingo.
The British flag, on the other hand, looks like this:
It hasn't seen a great deal of use since 1801.
How does your brain have the capacity for 31 different languages?! Just how? Here's a lingot for your incredible cranium.
Cantonese is a pretty minor dialect (side note: compared to all the other ones it’s actually pretty major) of Chinese so it’s probablbe a lot harder to find people that have the time and can speak the language
Hawaiian was exclusively an oral language with no writing system until Protestant missionaries arrived from New England in the mid-19th century. They needed to develop a writing system so they could translate the Bible, and so an alphabet was created using Roman letters. That alphabet is still in use today. In Hawaiian it is known as the 'pī-ʻā-pā Hawaiʻi'. It contains just thirteen letters, and the order of the letters is different from the typical ABC..., with vowels coming before consonants:
That last letter which looks like a backwards apostrophe is called ʻokina, and it is just as much of a consonant as the others. It represents a glottal stop sound.
I think duolingo should do more things like this to help preserve endangered languages
I’m very excited that an endangered language will become more popular and therefore less endangered through Duolingo, so I’m very excited about learning this amazing language!
This is wonderful. I remember being exposed to a small amount of Hawaiian in elementary school and I would love to refresh what I learned and progress.
This is totally awesome! I've been looking forward to learning this language! #DuolingoROCKS :D Vote up and give me a lingot if you agree!
Yay! So excited! I'm from Hawaii and have wanted to learn Hawaiian for a while now :)
the flag is a symbol of the colonizers that stole the land from the kānaka maoli (Native Hawaiians).
The current flag of Hawai'i was originally commissioned by King Kamehameha I, who had already adopted the British red ensign as his national flag because he liked the design; it was not imposed upon the Kingdom of Hawai'i by the US or anyone else.
There is no such thing as an indigenous flag before that time as the use of flags in the modern manner was not part of the Hawaiian culture.
Interesting idea. Maybe use this one instead? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Hawaii#/media/File:Flag_of_the_Governor_of_Hawaii.svg
For those of you who have a judgement about a language should not take years and years to learn. Everyone learns differently and I myself like to make any language I am learning a life long study. That does not mean I don't set goals and move it forward in how I progress with it, I only mean that many things in life are so vast - they can be a life study if we embrace things in that way - they are continual and our relationship with those areas of study are an evolution over time. How beautiful and awesome is that?
I would like to see latin become a part of Duolingo I think it is important to help you learn any language you might want to speak