13 XPs per lesson?
Dear Language Co-learners,
Something is up. I usually receive 10 XPs per lesson and review when I do Duolingo Italian. Today, I have received 13 XPs for every lesson and review. I am not complaining. It is nice of course. But I am surprised. I don't understand the change. Is there some kind of system at play? Has anyone else been experiencing this? Thank you for your responses!
Best wishes, Sincerely, Matthew
I am just a little bit compulsive, as my streak and levels attest. I am currently doing 7 languages a day, and I do two lessons for 20 points in Irish, 4 lessons for 40 points in Portuguese, etc. Even when I do timed exercises, I make sure I end my day with a multiple of 10 in every language. 13 is going to drive me crazy!
Just a little compulsive.. I wonder if they introduced 13XP rule to make people like you (and me) work harder because of deadly prime numbers. 10 Lessons in each language, looks like it.
I know what you are saying. I can tell you are the kind of person who could get a little OCD about this. :) Thank you for replying. I can't believe I am replying to a real-life polyglot. I would love to learn your secrets. Stay away from dry brush and tinder by the way. That streak is dangerous!
I don't consider myself a polyglot, since the only language I really use is English. My Spanish is decent, and I do consider myself prepared to use and truly learn any of the others, should the opportunity arise.
The only secret is persistence. At any given time, I work on new lessons in two languages, currently Portuguese and Irish. The others I review daily until I hit level 25, at which point I "retire" them. Then I either look for opportunities to reinforce the language or reset it and start over. I'm working on my Spanish through the Spanish to Catalán course, for example, and I'm starting my second time through on Irish.
Take it one day at a time. The real fun begins when you are thrust into the actual countries where these languages are spoken. There is nothing quite like muttering ' Pant Quattro cinque pant per favore..' to a clerk while trying to beat a bus to its terminal in 35+ degree weather.
Most native speakers laugh, except clusters of the French. They just switch to English.
Personally, I don't like it. I set daily point goals for myself that vary each day of the week according to a set pattern. So, some days I commit myself to reaching 100 points and stopping there; some days my goal is 150 points; and some days it is 200 points. I feel that following this pattern helps keep me motivated to do the work—and to do enough each week to actually be of benefit—without pushing me so hard that I burn myself out. (Those 200 point days can be tough, but I am able to get through them because I know that I can take it easy on the 100 point days.) This point change has thrown off my pattern completely. (Today my goal was 100 points; I ended up with 104.) I'll adjust in time, of course, but I don't see any real purpose or benefit to the change. It seems to be merely change for change's sake, which I find annoying. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I have done some experiments. 1. 13XP is awarded at both skills at crown 3 AND 4. 2. It is independent of the number of mistakes made in the lesson. You still get 13XP.
To make this even more confusing I got 13 per lesson yesterday in a language where i am halfway down the tree and today I get 14 in a brand new language. Very strange ...
Yes, I just experienced it too. I did 6 lessons and got 78 XPs in all instead of 60.
Me, too. I wonder if it is one of Duolingo's A/B tests they are so fond of.
Charles: That's odd. I'm doing Italian too. A lesson this morning gave me 13 XP, and one just now, to check, also gave 13 XP.
it's not the same for everyone. i am even getting 14xp for spanish... still annoying. :/
CharlesRit3, I'm back to getting 10 XP's per exercise, too! I tried two different trees and got 10 XP's. Sigh. It was nice while it lasted!
Yes I have also been receiving 13 XPs per lesson today - interesting!
I'm confused too. I'm not sure that this has anything to do with streaks, crowns, or the number of times one has done a lesson. There are many lessons where I have four crowns, many where I have three crowns, and there are some lessons that I have never done. Each day I try to do three review exercises and then two or three lessons to increase my crown level in a particular part of speach. Today, I received 13 XPs for each review exercise even though I made four mistakes in one exercise, one mistake in another, and no mistakes in the third. I also received 13 XPs for completing a lesson in which I made no mistakes.
When one reads the discussions associated with the lessons, one gets the feeling that some people feel as though DL has quirks. I certainly do. I had completed all aspects of every Italian lesson up to the point where I decided that I didn't want to bother with learning the last set of complex verbs. Then DL introduced crowns and instead of having completed all those lessons, DL considered that I had completed only three fifths of each lesson; that is, three crowns out of five.
Now, all of a sudden, we receive 13 XPs per exercise or lesson. Why 13? Why not 12.5? The number 12.5 is a nice factor of 25, 50, and 100: numbers for which some (compulsive?) people might strive. Who wants to strive for 39 or 91? So, it's another quirk. I find DL useful, but its quirks can be annoying.
By the way, does anyone know what has happened to levels? They obviously are reported with each person's comments, but DL no longer reports the required number of XPs to reach the next level. Now that one receives 13 XPs per exercise/level, does one reach the next level sooner?
The XP needed to reach the next level shows up on My Profile (hover over your userid and you'll see the drop down).
Yes! I was so surprised to get 13 points instead of the regular 10 points! I was on Crown Level 2 and received 13 points with no mistakes. Then a Duolingo Documentary: Something Like Home popped up. I did another lesson and got another 13 points. So, I went to a different language and got 13 points for each lesson. I think I made one mistake. By the way, the Duolingo Documentary is good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcX6i2qp6w0
It's strange! I personally prefer 10 xp per lesson because I can keep track of my lessons I do in Russian more easily. Like "oh, I got 60 xp today, so I did 6 lessons today. " a strange update to be sure =^= but I don't mind! I'll just divide everything by 13
I agree with you. I have always received 10xp per lesson and I liked the system the way it was. Everytime you get used to the way Duo works they switch things around, I find it rather discouraging.
I can see how that feels. For me, it's only a minor inconvenience and as long as it doesn't mess with the content of the language course itself in a negative way, I'll be willing to tolerate it
I noticed that, too! I got 13 XP for each review I did today and it's going to drive me crazy haha, I don't like odd numbers. It's nice to get more XP, though. I just wish I understood the system behind it!
Yep. I'm working my way through level four. I did four lessons today. The first two lessons earned 10 points each, then the next two earned 13 each. I can't think of any reason for this. I suspect it is just a quirk in the system, or perhaps some programmer decided on an arbitrary number of points per level and had to add extra points to some lessons to make the total come out.
Desktop apps and iphone apps are working differently for me. with desktop app I get 10 questions and 13 xps and with iphone app I get 15 questions and 10 xps. Does Duolingo have an answer?
Personally, I really like this change. It takes the focus off of how many lessons I've done and makes me look at leveling-up instead. It also makes me look at completing units to get closer to the end of the course.
I like that philosophy! I like this change because I'm trying to reach Level 25 in two languages. Even though I have the completed trees, I'm working on the new Crown System. The extra 3 points will help!
Does a Duo Lingo staff member have an actual answer to why this is happening?
I have noticed this too, but i don't know why. Maybe it is related with the number of times you have completed the lesson. In the next time, we can recieve 14 XPs That is the only reason that i have imagined
Thanks for your reply. That is an interesting supposition. I am not sure though, because I did one lesson from a section I had two crowns in, one lesson from a section I had one crown in, one lesson from a new section, and then clicked the practice button and practiced without a timer. For each of these lessons I earned 13 XPs. When I clicked the practice button, and practiced with a timer though, I got more XPs, that is to say as many as items I answered correctly, just as usual.
Just wondering...The timer function seems to have disappeared for me. Is there another way to access it? - It disappeared after the Crowns update.
Ciao! I think this happens when you've got a streak in a exercise... For example 5 in a row, you should get extra XP...
Thanks for replying, MacMenezes21. That is an interesting theory. It sounds fair, and I think that would be good. I'm not sure it matches up with my experience today though. What has your experience been? What languages are you leaning by the way? What is your native language?
My native language is portuguese and I've been studying English for a long time, but I've lost my Google account and started again. On Italian, I'm trying to keep a goal around 200 ~500 xp considering my busy routine. On English I did a test to jump over 48 units, for this reason I got a great XP, and now I'm doing tests on each unit to improve my skills... What about you?
It may be an attempt to unite the point systems on mobile and web. On the mobile app, I get anywhere from 10-15 points depending on how many mistakes I make. Up until recently, those bonus 5 points were not in play on the website.
Yup, I'm getting 13 xp when practicing.
Wonder why duolingo didn't do 15 instead.....
It really messed with my head because today is my big "complete the tree" day so I thought it was related to finishing lesson 66 of 66. I have noticed that people with older accounts have XP that are not multiples of 10, so it seems to me that this is not the first time this has happened.
Timed practice used to give you 1 xp per correct answer so all sorts of random numbers were possible.
And there was me, stuck with +7 for two years! If only I'd known this any time before this week!
One could get single digit XPs when chatting with chatbots (when they were available in mobile app). Also currently Stories award 2XP for each correct answer.
We used to get 10XP for new lessons, and 3-9 (I think) for strengthening lessons. It switched over to 10XP for everything about 2 years ago.
13 is a lucky number to Italians, so I'll take it. Also, it takes 15k xp just to reach level 20, and another 15k to reach 25, so gimmie gimmie, the more the merrier =)
I've noticed this as well, I thought at first it had something to do with me using my streak freeze and resuming a lesson the next day but I guess not. I am a bit OCD about my points being in 10s
I was getting 13 points yesterday, but now I am only getting 10 again.
Is this true for everybody?
Oh hang on - just did a lesson on the web based version and got 13 points again, but I was only getting 10 points on the app on the ipad...
Obviously I’m either side of the A/B test and getting different points dependant on whether I log onto the app or the website
If you complete the tests to pass to the next level, then it will give you the remaining points in multiples of ten (I just passed a few tests and got 60 points on one, 250 points on another, etc.). It seems to me that Duolingo wants to reward you for going through the courses at a slower pace, one lesson at a time. So they do this by giving you three extra points per lesson. If you go through the trees by passing all of the tests, you will get through it faster, but with fewer points than if you go through in a more thorough manner.
I've had this feature for about three days now. In my experience this sort of development is normal. Duolingo regularly changes the rules of the game while you are playing it. It does not explain why. One possibility is that Duo is trying to manipulate it's own Internet traffic statistics. The more time spent on the site, the greater the advertising revenue.
I thought that it was kinda cool at first but it's still annoying that it takes three lessons to get my goal of thirty even though i probably would do way more than that anyway.
I'm back to 10 XPs per lesson today. It's infuriating not knowing what is going on!
On Monday, when I installed Duolingo on my new mobile phone, I was prompted with treasure chests and asked to select one. After this I get 13 XPs per lesson. I have nover seen the chests when doing duolingo on the PC.
Yes, the chests are on the app - but even if you hit your goal on the PC, you should go to the app after that and collect your chests/lingots
Thank you for the hint about going to the app. I am using Duolingo on my PC 99,99% of the time. Only when I am afraid, that I will not be home in time to meet my daily goal prior to midnight, I use my smartphone.
i am so ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ annoyed by this change. i rēd all the comments in this thread and no one seems to know why the XP has changed to 13. surely DL knew people would ask why, so.....?
I always got 10 XP per day and then when they suddenly changed it to 13 XP i was like wait what happened? Then i thought maybe you get more the more you level up but if everybody here has the same then i really wanna know why they changed this! I mean like what even is the point of a 10 XP daily goal if you get 13 XP in once? My daily goal is 50 XP so if i do 4 lessons instead of 5 i now get 52 XP!
If you use the app on your phone, it can give up to 15 per lesson depending on mistakes you make - also you can get 2 points for posting in target language in your club discussions
I became surprised from which solution of Schrodinger equation this number (13) came out.