https://www.duolingo.com/Michael708915

Ways to improve the testing out in crowns

Michael708915
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I like the expanded Spanish tree very much now that there is a way (for those of us in the A/B group with testing-out keys) to test out of lower levels and quickly get back to gold without tediously going through repetition of the basics.

But there are improvements that could be made. First, the testing out needs to get harder as you move up levels. I have not found that to be the case. One easy way is for higher levels to be primarily listening and writing what we hear in the target language with translating into the target language. At levels 4 and 5 there should be hardly no translating from target language to ones native language. Introducing new material at higher levels is ideal, but if that is too much to ask, it should be easy to change the problem selection to focus on working into the target language.

A second annoyance is that for testing out of a level I get too many XP points. Taking one test at a basic level on a basic skill should not be worth 120 points, which it currently can be if you bypass 12 lessons. It is one test, and should award 10 or 13 or 15 points, but not some exorbitant amount.

I do like getting the single lingot for not making any mistakes on a test. It motivates me to be more careful.

Everyone, please chime in and help improve this A/B testing so it can rapidly roll out to everyone, since it is so obviously an improvement even in its present state. My wife does not even have the expanded Spanish tree, and is not in the testing out group either. She would like to be in both, as I am currently.

4 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/adder3
adder3
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To me the word bank should not be an option in testing out.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melyndi
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yeah testing out isn't nearly hard enough. Points yeah whatever who cares but they really need to make the testing out a lot harder

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mmraby
mmraby
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I agree. I think testing out at higher levels should be mostly generating your own Spanish (i.e. writing and pronouncing) rather than reading. Testing out is a great feature, but it needs to be much harder (especially on the mobile app, which is ridiculously easy compared to the web version).

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mmraby
mmraby
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(Also, I don't care at all about how many xp points are awarded, but I want a sense of what skills I know well and which I don't.)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NtateNarin
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I totally agree with your first point. I tried testing out and many of the questions from levels 3 to 5 were the same. So basically, if you did well on the early levels of the testing out feature, you're pretty much guaranteed to pass the entire 5 levels of a lesson.

Disclaimer: I did this on the French tree, which I want to point out in case the Spanish tree actually has many different questions with the different levels. Also, I already completed my tree before the crowns came, which is why I only tested levels 3 - 5, and not 1 and 2, which were already completed for me.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/elizadeux
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Based on what I've seen so far:

Level 0 Test = 0 write-in Spanish

Level 1 Test = 10 write-in Spanish

Level 2 Test = 0 write-in Spanish

Level 3 Test = 0 write-in Spanish

Level 4 Test = 10 write-in Spanish

Practice = 5 write-in Spanish

I should probably note that I have the audio features turned off. I get practice speaking and listening in other ways.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward
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I don't have the test out feature yet but I've seen others express the sentiment that testing to get from 4 to 5 should be significantly harder than testing to get from 0 to 1 (and I agree!!). I also like the idea of not getting an exorbitant amount of XP for testing out. That would prevent folks from constantly resetting their tree and doing test outs, in order to game the system.

By the way, this is the Spanish forum, for getting help with Spanish grammar, vocabulary, resources, etc. Could you please edit your original post and use the drop-down list at top left to change the topic from "Spanish" to "Duolingo"? That way it won't clutter up the Spanish forum, and it will be seen by people interested in ways to improve Duolingo.

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4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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The author of the SHOF http://www.duome.eu portal has now also added a new (3rd) "Skill Test-Out" button to the progress page: http://www.duome.eu/USERNAME/progress

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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"Give fewer points to new experimental feature/skill tests!": https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/27805789

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adder3
adder3
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She could try opening a new account. That will probably have the new features. I cant see why your complaining about the XP awarded. It makes no difference after you get to level 25. You could get awarded much higher amounts in the old immersion system.

4 months ago
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