https://www.duolingo.com/BassetBasset

What it takes to do the New and Improved Spanish Tree via Crowns - by the numbers! No testing out!

The new Spanish tree has 113 skills and 520 level 1 lessons. The Fibonacci sequence is used to achieve each additional level (x1-x1-x2-x3-x5) (courtesy of LeeBrownst1)
So, what does this mean? You need to do 520 lessons to complete the tree at level 1 and 6,240 lessons to get the tree to level 5; i.e. completely gold.
At 10 to 15 XP per lesson, that would be 62,000 - 93,000 XP. Consider the fact that under the old system, the max level of 25 is 30,000 XP and most people finished with a gold tree at about 10,000-20,000 XP.
At 5 minutes per lesson, that would be about 40 hours to get all to level 1, and 520 hours (22 continuous days) to level 5. YMMV
And that is without extra practicing of any skill at all.
I've had a few years of Spanish, so this is more refresher for me. I'm only going for level 1 throughout and then the practice button. I do 2 skills per day, so I'll be done the tree in about a month. ** edited to reflect LeeBrownst1's info

5 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/LeeBrownst1
LeeBrownst1
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More exact numbers are available.

"https://duome.eu/BassetBasset/progress" shows that there are 520 lessons in your Spanish tree, not counting the bonus skills. (Mine has only 500; go figure.)

To get to level 5 in a skill without testing out, each lesson has to be completed 12 times. So you would need to complete 520 x 12 = 6240 lessons to get to level 5 in all lessons and therefore in all skills. At the old rate of 10 XP per lesson, that would be 62,400 XP, starting from zero XP. That's a bit more than double what it takes to get to level 25.

To get to level one on each skill, you complete each lesson once, so 520 lessons = 5,200 XP at the old rate.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BassetBasset

I forgot about checking duome. Thanks. I know there was a discussion on the number of times to get to level 5. I thought it's 1-1-2-4-8=16, but couldn't find the discussion that actually did the trouble to find the correct formula. It's interesting that literally every skill for the past 45 has been 4 lessons, but now will jump up to 5, 6, 7, and even 10 in some cases. Still, it's a ridiculous amount of time to spend on it just to get gold (500+ hours). Level 1 for me is good enough.

5 months ago

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It's a Fibonacci sequence: 1 repetition of each lesson in a skill to get to level 1; 1 more repetition to get to level 2; 2 more repetitions to get to level 3; 3 more repetitions to get to level 4; and 5 more repetitions to get to level 5. 1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 = 12.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bola.de.Nieve

duome is cool. Thanks for sharing.

https://duome.eu/Bola.de.Nieve/progress

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Clay189902

ok so I thought you had to do each circle through 5 before moving on, I noticed that only a couple lessens light up at a time as I work down the tree, going to crown 5 on each before moving on.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ginasem

Clay,

If you go to level 5 first before moving on your are actually going to be able to read, write, hear, and speak Spanish. If you do level 1 all the way down you aren’t going to know anything because you didn’t repeat it until it was completely merged with you brain. Even if level 5 is done and the topic is gold. In a while if you just want to quickly refresh the earlier ones because you are scared you have forgotten them that is no problem. Just click on whichever done one you want to practice and after you click on it a oval comes up with options. Choice practice. I recently did this because i have the version where you lose health when you make a mistake and gain it back by practicing. When I reviewed (practiced) quite a few of my already finished topic it was so easy. Not because the practice was easy but because from doing each one and finishing level 5 my brain remember and jumped right in.

I would do one topic at a time and finish level 5 on them and then move onto the next topic and repeat. I know it’s hard when you get to levels 4 and 5 because it’s so repetitive but believe me it is worth it. Keep in mine that these people who skip levels and test of of topic have learned spanish in the past so they aren’t really losing anything. Please trust me. My way is the best for coming out strong and in the end knowing how to read, write, comprehend and speak that will stick with you. Also if you don’t know about Tinycards then I would highly recommend working on them. They are going to give you a huge vocabular. Just download the app Tinycard and then scroll down a ways to find spanish. Don’t get impatient and move down the tree. Go to level 5 first. It is so worth it.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sjyoshida

I agree with you.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BassetBasset

Just level 1 is required for each skill before moving on. Then the next "branch" (usually 1, 2 or 3 skills) on the tree will open up for you. I would do just level 1 or 2 on most skills and use the practice button several times daily, which is based on SRS, to keep up my knowledge on previous skills. Find the method, though, that works best for you.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Clay189902

Thanks for the encouragement Ginasem and the tip about Tinycards!

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ginasem

I am just guessing with a couple of facts i know. One is that I am on level 14 or very close to it. Secondly, i have been working up my tree and reaching level 5 before i move onto the next topic. I have complete almost 14 topics out of 113. I seem to be the only one that only gets 10 xp per lesson and i don’t do tons of other things to improve my XPs except once in a while to write on a club board and get 2 xp. At the rate I am going I think it will be at least level 50 before i finish the tree. You can do the exact math if you want. I am to lazy to bother. But figure out what percentage 14 is to the 113 topics and then see where my level compares and figure out the answer. I just know that at this rate I will hit level 25 at around the half way mark on the tree. It’s a rough estimate. You could also figure how many levels it takes to complete a topic or vice versa and then just muliply from there. Like I said I just really don’t feel like actually figuring out the exact number. One more thing. I don’t understand why i have now heard The Fibonncci Numbers mentioned by a handful of people. I don’t understand what they have to do with this. No because I don’t have a great understand of the fibonancci numbers and certainly not because I don’t understand math extremely well. But to say that they have anything to do with this mathmatical situation here is absolutely crazy. Especially since they are being presented completely wrong and it is definitely being used completely wrong. I’m sure that whoever started using this reference were not very familiar to how they work themselves and banked on the fact that other people wouldn’t understand the term and question it. Well I am telling you now that the way they are being oddly forced into this situation is just and deceiving. I have plenty of math behind my belt to straight out say that whoevet started saying this must have watched a 4 minute Youtube video and suddenly thought that they should definitely use the term where they could find something similiar and make themselves look smart. That only works with people who haven’t taken advanced math and know better that they are just trying to quote a show that when by and over their heads. People, people, people. Geez i am normally the most laid back easy going person i know and this is the 3rd time today that i have lost my patience over something that really isn;t a big deal. If people want to throw out big words to make themselves feel smart at the cost of making other feel not as smart. So be it. Why do I even care. I know why I care and that’s because I always side with the underdog. I have since i was a young child, okay i;m stopping now because i’m getting very boring to the point that I am bored with my own words. Sorry I;ve inflicted you with this boredom. I am just not myself today at all. Sorry for giving you such a hard time. You are probably just quoting someone else. I swear I am never aggressive like this. I truly apologize. If you want to pretend those numbers have some significance and impress unknowning peole so you feel a little pep in your step so be it. It’s not like you are really hurting them. It’s not murder. I a=have got to pull myself together by morning. I literally didnt sleep last night at all and very poorly for the last week. Maybe that’s why i’m being such a ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ in the forums today. Okay you have I nice night and I hope great things come to you during your lifetime. Take care.

5 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ginasem

Also I am sorry my comments are so long. They are just obnoxious with that length and the rambling on.

5 months ago
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