https://www.duolingo.com/ngarrang

Thank you for the "Test Out" feature!

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I guess I am a lucky beta recipient. My android app has the 'test out' feature enabled.

For completeness, I want the skills at 5, no matter how mundane. That is my OCD.

I went to Hebrew Letters 1 which was sitting at Level 4 and looking at having to type אבא בא gobs of times was not going to be fun. I was able to test out and the skill is complete once again.

Thank you, DL, for returning this feature.

July 3, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/jarduo
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The test out feature appeared today on my laptop. This is great; I often found myself making stupid typing or grammar mistakes etc., just because I had spent so much time in repetitive lesson sentences that I would lose focus. Thank you Duo, I now feel like my time is better spent since I am productively practicing the higher level skills rather than the just enduring the drudgery of the lower levels.

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Spencs15

The test out feature just appeared today for me and I tested out of so many early lessons that I knew but didn't want to have to spend forever clicking of what letters are what. It's so great.

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/GeneralGinne

Yes! I cannot tell you how ecstatic I am to have the test-out feature back. Now I can get back to being challenged by Duo instead of going through the motions of typing the same basic sentences 50 times. Thanks! :)

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Gary698455

Exactly!

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ngarrang
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For the more advanced lessons, that model makes sense. But the first few lessons of most all of the languages include so few words, that the new crown model was simply dumb.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/me-n-jesus

I also have this enabled, and I also thank Duolingo for this awesome "Test Out" button. ☺

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Tabingtons

Yes! Test out feature appeared on my browser today. Really helps my OCD!!

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Minetyl

Absolutely agree. This is such an advantage, rather than having to do endless pointless repetitions of very early basics. Many thanks Duolingo

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jsiehler
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It kind of highlights how weak the upper levels are, though. Testing out of level five will feel exactly like testing out of level 3 or level 4, with the same sentences, and the majority of the questions still very easy types with only a very small minority requiring you to produce much of anything in the target language. Just more of the same low-value exercises, piled higher and deeper.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ngarrang
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The new crown model only enhances the quantity, not the quality, of the learning. I had completed Spanish and Dutch a few years ago and was happily using the Practice button to keep both trees gold. They switched to the crown model and most of my skills were at 2, some 3. Really? My Spanish tree was completely gold and I was level 25; throw me a bone here.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/ConaireMor
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The crown model is in fact supposed to increase the quality or at least the difficulty of the lessons. Many individual exercises had been thrown out due to the difficulty and how often they are reported. Now they are re introduced in the higher crown levels.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/jsiehler
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Well, that's the theoretical promise. But look, I just took the level 5 test on a topic in German ("Relative pronouns"). Here are the first few questions:

  1. Write what you hear: Eulen, die sprechen, beißen nicht.
  2. Write this in German: Owls that talk don't bite ("Eulen, die sprechen, beißen nicht.")
  3. Write this in German: I don't like people who hate animals.
  4. Ich habe ein Auto, [die / der / das] rot ist.
  5. Ich bin eine Frau, [den / die / der] Katzen liebt.
  6. Write this in English: Eulen, die sprechen, beißen nicht.
  7. Write this in English: Leute, die Tiere hassen, mag ich nicht. ("I don't like people who hate animals")
  8. Write this in German: A vegetarian who eats meat is not a vegetarian.
  9. Type what you hear: Leute, die Tiere hassen, mag ich nicht.

And so on. More than a third of the questions are repeats. The topic doesn't have enough material to populate a twenty-question quiz. How batty (note: I tamed that word down) would you go repeating those same few sentences enough times to grind through the topic to level 5 the hard way? And how many better ways can you think to spend your time?

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/CarynJoy
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Yaaaassss! I was the same way on Hebrew. I've been studying Hebrew for almost 8 years, so for that language I use Duolingo mostly to brush up. I also like for everything to be complete, so leaving levels behind, no matter how painful, is just not an option. The "test out" feature is a Godsend! Thank you, thank you, thank you DL!!

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/KarenLynn11
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I just got it too, both on the app and the website. Joy!! I am so excited about this.

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Farlander2821

I believe it is now available to everyone

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/PinkyBrazil

Me too. I have several profiles set up - so I can track my goals by language since I do more than one. I have had the test out feature on Spanish (pinkygreen) for quite some time. I just got the test out feature in Portuguese (PinkyBrazil) today.

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/suewoods
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Not yet

July 7, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Jan-ErikJ
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I agree! Bye bye to the repetitive grinding on the lower crown levels :)

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Zuvium
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I'm very glad for this as well. I was sick of completing 45 lessons in a row for words that I've already learned.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/01LearnFrench01

I had the owl in spanish and it totally went away with the upgrade. I was not going to waste my time on repeating things I knew. The test out feature is great because I don't feel I'm wasting my time.

July 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/I_Am_Robin
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Is the beta test going to be determined a success by seeing how much XP people go for again? I just did one test, got 200xp for it, "Wow 200xp per day this guy loves the new feature"

I'm not saying I don't like it, but I'd like to know how they categorize if it's a success.

July 3, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/suewoods
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well I think the majority of comments here are positive and I also think it's a great option, and it is also still up to each learner to decide if they want to use the test out option, so I think it's a success already, although my husband does not have it yet and I am beating him in our club now so he is not so happy:)

July 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Stergi3
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It seems that Duolingo prefers testing more than practicing. Well, it is a decision that has a tremendous change in learning method. It is so easy to bypass all basic levels since you are advanced more than this level. It will blow up the clubs as competition is not fair and equally shared to all learners. And of course schools! Well this decision makes testing more tempting than practicing. After all it is better to to have a test in some questions and try to gain free XPs and levels than repeating all the time!

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/fredfiretail

Good insight. Perhaps Duolingo should reduce the amount of XPs given for testing out of skills to guard against this? Maybe reduce it to 5 XP per base lesson for testing out at each level?

So, for example, if a learner were to test out from level 2 to level 3 in a skill with 4 base lessons, they would earn 20 XP for that. Ditto to go from level 3 to 4. In total, 100 XP to test out all the way up to level 5 from level 0.

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/nfolkert
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seems like it gives you the XP for all the lessons in the level that you haven't yet done. so if there are 9 lessons in the level and you haven't done any it will give you 90XP, but if you've done all but one it will give you 10XP. I think this is reasonable, actually.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Elizabeth528513

It seems to give varyng amounts for leveling up. It gave me 90xp for one level and 300xp(!!!) for another. In both cases from level 3 to level 4. And mysteriously, sometimes they ask as little as three questions.

July 19, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/sguthrie1

I'm loving it-- especially since they just dramatically increased the number of levels and lessons to complete the tree.

It would be really tedious to have to do so many basic lessons.

Btw, did this huge increase in the number of lessons happen to others? The banner at the top says... "We’ve updated your skill tree to teach you Spanish more effectively."

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Dana246894
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I love the test out feature. It helps me catch up to where I need to be with languages I am brushing up on ( Spanish and Czech) so that I am not endlessly repeating absolute basics. This leaves me more time to focus on where I need to be practicing and also more time for new languages ( Italian and Turkish) . Very happy with the feature!

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/henddraig

Thank you so much! I am only learning Welsh because I am pretty much housebound so am unlikely to need any new languages and am keen to be fairly fluent in the language of my mothers before I shrug off this mortal coil. Typing accurately with arthritis and poor peripheral vision is not easy, so being able to jump up the levels more easily is bliss! However, on my ipad, i can get the net version with grammar hints and the keys, but the Duscussion Function seems glitched. In the mire of would, were, if and not, add get and have and I was left frequently wanting to say "why is this wrong?" All I cpuld bet on pressing discussion was the word BLANK . I daresay i need a bug report, but I don't know how to do that! My eyes and my laptop don't agree well, so i use it less and less. Can someone look into this?

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/nfolkert
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Crowns helped give me some discipline on harder languages to do enough repetitions to put it in long term memory, but they bored the hell out of me on easy languages that I could pick up after the first few lessons. So I found that I was basically only studying Chinese, and letting all the other languages I'd done stagnate. Since these tests came back, I've been motivated to also go back and brush up on the other languages again.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto_de1
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Testing out is not a feature for everyone. However it's a boon for advanced learners, I think. It eliminates unnecessary repetitiveness. I like using test out. Thanks, DL.

July 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Martino600641

By testing out of a skill further down the tree does it still automatically level you up on the basic skills further up the tree?

I liked that on practice you could get a double (or even triple) whammy by going up a level on different units because of the vocabulary used.

Basically, I'm hoping that after strengthening some advanced grammar topics to 5 I don't have to go right back up and start testing out of 'basics'

July 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/sarasievert

I tested out on my android but didn't get any of the points that it said I was awarded.

July 6, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/montyElGato

Agreed, thank you very much for this feature!

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Enchilada5
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It is not on mine yet. I will look out for it.

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/PinkyBrazil

Perhaps you need to log out and back in again.

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/hOgAPjuG
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hear, hear!

July 4, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/meimei2018

I just started Duolingo less than a week ago with previous Spanish, Japanese and Russian knowledge and zero Chinese. With the test out option (and generally strong language ability) I am now at level 10 Chinese. I am spending more time on Chinese than my other languages. I am glad that I don't have to go through all the Spanish/Russian/Japanese lessons because of my previous knowledge. How does XP work?

July 5, 2018

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July 20, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/daltojr
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This feature is so easy for some courses that it feels like cheating.

July 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Minetyl

But that’s the point, isn’t it? The particular exercise is really easy and can be very repetitive for little language gain, so being able to test out means being able to spend more time on a trickier exercise.

July 5, 2018

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I love this feature, I've been studying Spanish for 10+ years and do not need to drill niño y niña into the dust. But before the test out feature my curiosity made me try some of the basics to the fourth crown. It did seem to include some new, less basic concepts. But because it's no longer my primary duo language I didn't press through to crown 5.

It's my biggest misgiving about this new feature that they are using the heart system again instead of anything remotely adaptive and that it seems no matter how many lessons you are testing out of nor which crown you are skipping for either number or difficulty of the test out questions. It says something like "we won't make it easy on you" but they do. The test out is easy, and I don't want it to be. I want then to include any or all new vocabulary covered at that level and force you to answer two different questions if you miss one. And to vary the length so testing out of 4 lessons from crown 1 -> 2 is not the same length of test as testing out of 35 lessons from crown 4 ->5. It's great while you're testing out of low level stuff but what if I manage to test to crown 5 down what is already a pitiably short Spanish tree workout gaining any of the benefits the new crown system has to offer? It would be my fault but also maybe the devs for not developing this new feature so that it doesn't nuke all their hard work in crowns.

July 5, 2018

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I super-ultra-love the test out feature. Duolingo, if you're listening, PLEASE put it on iPhone and iPad, too - not just laptop!

July 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JBOXY

But why have you limited test out to level 4 and below? I want to progress to level 6 without the seemingly endless repetitions that must be endured.

July 7, 2018

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There is no level six

July 7, 2018

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