https://www.duolingo.com/John_Coolidge

New Spanish Tree checkpoints

I couldn't find a post on this so if there already is one, kindly direct me there. Thank you.

I will start by stating that I am not a fan of the new Spanish tree. I was a beta tester on a different account and submitted my review after a few weeks of examining the tree. While I did find a few pros, most of my review was not positive. I stand by that review with an additional complaint.

Checkpoints

I created a new account so that I would not have that awful Spanish tree to look at every time I practiced Spanish and the only way to do that was to leave that old account. I had hoped that the issues I had with the new tree would be addressed. To my dismay, they have not been. Additionally, I noticed that when the new tree went live, I had hoped to skip most of the vocabulary (which was most of the new addition) by testing out of the skills that were added.

It turns out that the last checkpoint in the tree is well below the original skills pre-new tree. It ends at Household and Restaurant 2. Forty skills later, I can access the first of the grammar trees, the Present Tense. That's right, I said FORTY skills after the latest checkpoint. FORTY.

I'm going to be blunt and say what the heck was the Duo staff thinking when they remodeled this tree? Yeah, I get that more vocab is helpful for some. The tree and the app don't have to revolve around me. That's fine. So how do I skip all that? This lack of checkpoints seems so out in left field.

Is this a bug? Will it be fixed? I'm not working on forty skills just so I can get to the present tense (you know, that thing I will have been practicing for forty skills before I get to practice the official skill). If no fix is coming, I'm outta here. Crowns are cool, more vocab is okay, but if I can't at least skip it to get to the meat of the language (verbs) then what else should I do but find some other resource that's a little more advanced-user friendly?

Thanks for letting me rant.

7 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/LeeBrownst1
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The teaching of grammar is interleaved with the teaching of vocabulary. It appears that they are trying to hide that by naming the skills according to topic rather than grammatical category, at least for the earlier lessons.

The "Plans" skill (21st after the last checkpoint) teaches the future. The "Memories" (26th after the last checkpoint) , "Farm" (27th after the last checkpoint) and History (34th after the last checkpoint) teach the pretérito. Even the very early lessons teach genders, plurals and present-tense conjugations.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/John_Coolidge

Thank you for that tidbit. I did not know that. Still, while the 21st skill isn't the 40th, that's still a ridiculous amount of work just to start practicing some "advanced" (read basic) material in the language. :/

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/elizadeux
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My guess is that I'm probably about B1 in Spanish - low intermediate and am finding both new vocabulary such as desde luego (of course) and sigue adelante (keep going) as well as more practice with past tense, pronouns, and prepositions all in the new material. Some of the earliest skills are not the interesting to me, but I just skip them or test out if I feel like it. It helps if you've already completed the Spanish tree a couple times and the reverse tree. Then you can work on which ever skills you like. Of course, all that was a lot of work, but I don't mind if I enjoy it. What I don't enjoy, I skip or ignore.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/mmrab
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Yes. In fact I think the new tree does better at teaching many grammar points, and mixes the tenses more. But it would be nice if (since the labels don't reflect this at all ) there was a description for each lesson that actually named the grammar skills being taught.

7 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pyint
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I also really wish they had at least one later checkpoint.

4 months ago
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