https://www.duolingo.com/Xia267

New Spanish tree?!? New Spanish tree!!!

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I just took a look at duolingo today, and.... tada! Tons of new skills! Thanks so much duo, I can't wait to try them out. I counted the number of skills, and now there's 113. It used to only have 70! Thanks again, duo! :)

4 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Seneee
Seneee
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Haha yeah, right? And you're going to get level 25 so fast with them since you can test out even and most of them are not that hard!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cerita103

How do you test out? I keep getting 1,2,3 and things I already know

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Maxim_SMWD
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This is great and all for new learners, but despite completing the tree years ago and knowing probably 99% of the words on the course, I've now been stripped of my trophy :(

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zanzaboonda
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There is that, yes. But you'll get it back soon!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nickbii
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Unless you rage-quit. When my Spanish tree took that trophy and 25% of my crowns away I was at pretty much exactly the same XP level in all thre lamguages.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FredGold
FredGold
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yes, a virtual trophy...!

enough to make one give up..!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ShadowWolf7
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Losing that trophy was frustrating for me too! It took me ages to get it with the constant repetition and hard work. However, having gone back to Spain and used my Spanish, I now realise how the repetition has solidified what I've learned. It's a pain, and sometimes it feels too easy, but I feel it's worth it. At least we can test out, instead of slog through it all again.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Naomi153048

Test out everything? That's terrible! That's horrible! That's inexplicably horrid!

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Naomi153048

I would never do that.

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Naomi153048

NEVER, NEVER , NEVER

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Naomi153048

NEVER EVER!!!

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Naomi153048

Uh- uh. Nuh- uh neh-ver nope

3 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlisonRich6

I was wondering... What's all the purple? Then I realized it was all new catagories. Mucho gusto! Gracias Duolingo

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/angus390025
angus390025
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Wonderful idea, but they seem to have their stereotypes a little mixed up. The first one I got was "San nicolás tiene pantalones rojos y botas negras."

Sounds like they're referring to Santa Claus, the jolly fat guy all in red with black boots. He comes on December 25. San Nicolás (saint nicholas), was a bishop from Asia Minor and is the patron saint of children, and is usually depicted with a mitre, staff, white robe, and red frock. He comes on December 6.

One promotes consumption; the other promotes compassion. Quite a difference.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Multi0Lingual4
Multi0Lingual4
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In America it is generally understood that Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus are the same. Santa Claus was influenced by Saint Nicholas and figures from many other cultures. Perhaps it is different in your country...?

According to Wikipedia, Saint Nicholas's gift-giving date was moved to the 25th during the Reformation.

Edit: Saint Nick and Santa Claus are the same thing, from children's books I've read. End of story.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/angus390025
angus390025
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In America it is generally understood that Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus are the same. Santa Claus was influenced by Saint Nicholas and figures from many other cultures. Perhaps it is different in your country...?

My country is the United States of America. I was born in the United States of America, I am a United States citizen, and I lived in that country for most of my life.

I have always understood that Santa Claus is a character who visits children on Christmas eve. He visited us when we were young.

I have from an early age understood that there is also a character named Saint Nicholas. His feast day is December 6.

I was raised in the church. We didn't say grace very often and we didn't go to mass very often. Mostly it was sort of a cultural thing. My mother would say, "we're going to start going to mass." that would last a couple of weeks. But I was schooled in the Baltimore Chatechism and I was taught the basics of the holy feast days. And I have always understood that the feast of Saint Nicholas was December 6. We only set out our shoes a few times on the evening of December 5, to be filled with candy by Saint Nicholas (our parents, actually) during the night.

Christmas, on the other hand, is December 25. That was a much bigger deal. We were very American in that respect. Totally consumerist. My sister and I both got big piles of stuff every year, and I have carried out the consumerist tradition of the American Christmas with my son. Every year I spend hundreds of dollars, although he outgrew "santa claus" long ago. (We never did the Saint Nicholas thing with him. In fact, I have never taken him to a priest, a rabbi, a guru, or an iman. For us, Christmas is totally commercial and irreligious, very much an American-style event.)

I have also understood for a long time that no one really knows where or when Jesus of Nazareth was born. The place (Bethlehem) was picked as a convenience when the mother of Emperor Constantine visited the middle east and they needed to show her some place. The date was picked as a convenience because there was already a big party going on every December during the winter solstice, when slaves could order about their masters and the poor could count on gifts from the rich.

Santa Claus displaced Jesus long ago in American culture as the quintessential representative of Christmas. Anyone who is a person of the United States of America would have to agree with that. Our national Christmas celebration is totally commercial. I understand that this probably offends the religious among us, and it wasn't my goal to bring that up when I made my post, but it is an inescapable fact. Christmas, American-style, is pretty much the antithesis of anything that Jesus remotely preached. On the other hand, Saint Nicholas (who does not wear black boots and red pants) was much closer to the original message of compassion and mercy which has been lost.

But back to my original point: I'm not arguing in favor of or against the commercialization of Christmas. I actually don't have a strong opinion about that one way or the other. (I only spend too much, eat too much, and drink way too much, because that's how I was taught to celebrate christmas.) I'm simply saying that the Spanish statement given in the exercise is ridiculously and demonstrably false: Santa Claus is the fat guy who was invented by the Dutch and improved upon in the 1840s by New Yorkers, and even later by the Coca-Cola company. He's all about commercialism. Saint Nicholas is pretty much the opposite of Santa Claus. There is a festival of Saint Nicholas, and it gets celebrated on December 6.

It is important that people understand that Santa Claus and Saint Nicolas are two different entities. (At least it's not as bad as the one where duolingo points out that "crocodiles are descended from dinosaurs." That one is truly cringeworthy.)

I certainly will not be goaded into an argument with you about the merits and demerits of Wikipedia.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Multi0Lingual4
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Clearly I won't win this argument. I'll just restatement my point.

Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus have many of the same traditions surrounding them (going down the chimney, putting gifts in stockings, etc.

I am not a Catholic (Lutheran) nor am i a religious fundamentalist, so I don't know my saints.

From everything I have ever read, seen, or heard, Saint Nick is a common nickname for Santa Claus, whether accurate or not. Therefore, I hope Duolingo continues to accept "Santa Claus" as a translation of Saint Nick, and vice versa.

This is another link that explains some things: https://www.whychristmas.com/customs/fatherchristmas.shtml. One of which being that Saint Nick fell out of ppoularity in some countries and they changed his name to "Santa Claus". So yes, Santa Claus and Saint Nick are understood to be the same. We do not celebrate Christmas on December 6th.

The link also helpfully explains that Santa Claus WAS NOT influenced by Coka-Cola.

So yes, I guess you're right, the Dutch 'invented' Santa. As a replacement for Saint nick, whom I have never heard.

So I will always refer to Sainta Claus as Saint Nick. Whether accurate or not.

But he was based on Saint Nicholas.

So your original complaint was correct, it should be Papa Noel. But I hope they accept "Saint NicK" as an alternate translation for Santa Claus, because it's been that way ever since the Dutch came over here.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nickbii
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Saint Nick is actually the English form of Santa Claus. In many Northern European dialects Nicholas is something like Niklas, and the "Klas" bit supplies the nickname "Claus." "Santa" is an English mispronunciation of a Dutch dialectal word for Saint "Sinter." Sinterklass, St. Nick, and Santa Claus are thus all the same name in different languages.

That said, there are quite a few differences between the characters, including the fact that both St. Nick and Sinterklaas do their thing on Saint Nicholas day, or Saint Nicholas Day Eve (Dec 5 or 6), whereas Santa Claus does not give you presents until the 25th.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oruga_fantasma
oruga_fantasma
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The Christmas skill has been around for awhile as a seasonal bonus skill.

I wish they would add more levels.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xia267
Xia267
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Ahh, I did not know that (as I have been on duolingo for only 5 months)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oruga_fantasma
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Wow! You're doing great for only 5 months! Don't remember exactly when the Christmas skill goes live - but it's like the other bonus ones - 3 lessons and a little bit of insight into a different culture.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/adder3
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There were a lot of complaints last year because the Xmas skill did not go live at all. Something about the new coding. (Although those who already had it still have it)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jonas_reolon
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I really like it. It seems that they are going to start stating how hard is each sentence. Thanks for sharing. :)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/G-Wilson
G-Wilson
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I like the new features. I just gained 2200 XP in a day when I passed the checkpoint. Well done Duo!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RYANDONO
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Yo también.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/StarMaster_

Yay!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NoviDvor

re French stories! Can't wait to get more sets of them, as they are such a fun and help! Thanks in advance Duo!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lyza486374

I'm wondering if it's still 25 levels to complete the tree, or is it more than that now since there are more lessons?

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/nickbii
nickbii
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You should be able to get the tree complete by level 10 if you just get every skill to level one and move on. Level 25 happens if you do strengthenings/increase crown levels/etc. enough to get 30,000 XP, but all that means is you’ve got 30k XP. My level 25 language I’m not at crown level 5 in most skills.

There is no level 26.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lyza486374

ohh... interesting! Thanks very much :)

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oruga_fantasma
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I don't know for sure because I've gotten XP in labs and bonus skills. I am very close to level 25 in XP, but less than half way through the crowns and somewhere between level 2 and 3 overall.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gail667569

Ok, what's a Spanish tree?

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KeithOsbor2

It is the array of skills you see on your home page that you work through to learn your target language, in this case Spanish. There are 113 skills in the Spanish tree, each with five levels, or crowns, you can work through.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fuurinkazan.
Fuurinkazan.
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I have the new Spanish tree as well, looks great! However I started doing Spanish from Portuguese and it’s so exciting because I’m laddering the beautiful portuguese and spanish is very fun (while it’s still simple on the beginning haha and...), probably because it’s very easy to pronounce for a finn.

This laddering will go on with a super slow start though as I am still in progress of reviewing my en-pt tree, especially grammar skills will need a lot of reviewing. =) Oh and my pt-en tree is in progress as well.

Anyway, congrats for the team delivering an awesome expansion to the en-es tree! Happy learning everyone!

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FredGold
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super handy on days when time is at a premium...you can test out two easy subjects and you get your virtual sticker in ten minutes

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/res1der

Yeah, I remember completing the Spanish tree a few years. Now, it is bigger and more skills to learn.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Nora77323

Yeet

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LisaDooley1

Love that there are new skills, but I was deep into pronouns and now can't find it anywhere. Am I missing something or is it under a new heading? Thanks for any assistance.

4 months ago
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