https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keweii

No motivation

lately, I've been flying through each day without even focusing on the material in my lessons, instead just doing them to add to my streak. I'm only ever motivated when I'm challenged by the task or when I'm watching/listening to something where they speak Japanese.

Any advice??

July 16, 2018

17 Comments


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    One piece of advice that I give people is to remove motivation as much as possible from language learning. For example, maybe you plan to study tomorrow for an hour or two but when tomorrow comes, you just don't feel up to it and you skip a day. Then the skipped days add up until "What's the point? I haven't studied this language AT ALL for two weeks..." So what I mean by removing motivation is to make duo's small lessons a part of your daily routine so that motivation isn't a factor whether or not you want to do it today... I normally do a lesson when I lay down to go to bed and another when I wake up. BOOM! Already done for the day and anything else at that point is bonus! It also takes no motivation, but then when I feel like studying, like today for example, I can see I've done at least a little for the last 893 days! Now I'm always ready for motivation when it strikes (and it does), and I don't worry about motivation otherwise. Some weeks I bury my clubs hopelessly in points and other weeks they don't even know I'm there...

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jilianna13

    El_Gusano I'm impressed my how many languages you're learning.

    July 22, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Axhul

    I would try to have a set goal in mind. Or have a something that reminds you why your learning it. Can't think of anything else right now.

    July 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keweii

    thank you!

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/johnlcouto

    Hey, I guess it's ok. You don't need to be motivated to do a very good lesson everyday. I mean, you have been keeping your streak for 150 days already. Can you imagine how hard it would be to just be ever motivated all those days?

    We are humans and our brains like to try new stuff from time to time, so it is ok to feel you are "only keeping your streak". I'm almost with a 2 years streak count and you can be sure I didn't feel motivated to dig deep in my lessons all those days. Probably not even half of them. So why keep doing it, you may ask. Well, first of all, it doesn't cost me more than 5/10 minutes a day, and it's a well spent time, as I'm always learning new words and reinforcing what I've learned. In 2 years of practicing French ONLY in Duolingo, I feel I can understand a lot of stuff I hear and more still of what I read. So it is paying of. Second, every now and them I feel a new wave of motivation and I go deeper with my lessons. When this happens, I spent 20/30 minutes a day studying French. This wouldn't happen if I had stopped before because I was "only keeping my streak".

    I'm almost finishing French (yeah, I've been doing it slowly and always trying to reinforce all I learned before, before moving on), and now I'm getting all my lessons to level 5, bit by bit. I should end it all by the end of this year. And what then? I'll probably start a new language. Maybe Japanese. Why stop, if with as little as 5 minutes per day I can learn so much in two years?

    Hope this helps ;)

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keweii

    thank you! :D

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ayamedori

    Depends. For me it works to focus on other methods of learning or just take a short break in general, but that might not work for you. How do/did you deal with lack of motivation in school?

    July 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keweii

    well I was homeschooled so finding motivation was always hard to find, I mean, why do school when I can watch Pokemon? but nowadays I usually just keep at it until I'm no longer forcing myself, but instead I'm excited to work. I'm going on vacation so hopefully when I get back, I'll be ready to learn. thank you for commenting :D

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/470031159

    I'd say that if you're motivated while watching Japanese shows, then do that more often. Just being around the culture helps you learn it. Instead of just watching the shows though, actively listen to them and try to connect what they are saying in Japanese to what the subtitles read. I learned my first words in Japanese from anime. They were gomennasai, ohayou, and hai. Try to continue using Doulingo, either every day if you intend to keep up your streak, or just occasionally. It's a HUGE motivator when, after taking a Duolingo lesson or two, you watch a Japanese TV show and realize that you're recognizing some of the words you've learned and are able to translate them without subtitles.

    Best of luck, whatever you decide to do!

    July 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keweii

    thank youuu!!

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/470031159

    Or you could just do what the person in your profile picture did when he was low on motivation ;)

    July 16, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/keweii

    ayeee ;)

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Virtuosyc

    I think it might also have something to do with your current skill level. I feel like especially in learning languages it's easy to stagnate and losing track of where you are. In the beginning learning is exciting regardless of the language. Learning new concepts and skills is usually a lot of fun. But it often happens that this enthusiasm slowly subsides after a while. Things can get quite repetitive if you want to be able to remember what you learn. Especially many Asian languages are extra difficult for people who grew up with another writing system such as the romanian alphabet for instance since you have to go the extra mile to learn all these new pictograms and you usually can't really just learn vocabulary straightaway. Learning Kana is a small journey itself.

    But what I'm trying to say is that all these small difficulties make themselves shown in the long run. That being said, slowly rising up in terms of your skill level will motivate you more because you will see how far you've come. You probably have reached a spot in which you claim for yourself that you're way better than you were when you first started and subconciously you're settling down, resisting further growth. Japanese can be really tiring to learn. I myself "gave it up" a year ago since I also lost motivation. To this point I roughly learned about 2000 Kanji and I also studied some grammar.

    When I decided to pick it up again recently I just grinded through the first lessons since it was way too easy. I was reminded that I did actually learn quite some amount back then and I could recall it more easily than I thought it would be. Now I'm starting to slow down just to be able to maintain a daily learning session as a habit. Seeing progress of your own skill brings you happiness and motivation to further improve.

    My personal advice for you is just to keep going. Do it right and rather slowly than too fast. Just do it wether you want to or not every day. You don't have to do it that long either 15-30 minutes in the beginning is plenty. Remember you can always improve. One day you will see how far you've come. You gotta think about it like a farmer. In order for a fruit to ripen, a seed first has to be planted and you will have to dedicate yourself to it every day. Everyone wants instant results but that is usually not gonna happen.

    And another suggestion I have for you is to use another tools along with duolingo such as Memrise or Anki at least if you don't use one of them already. I feel like duolingo is more like a program that helps you with general phrases and day to day communication in a narrow sense. That alone won't do of course, you have to learn a lot of new words to master a language. Duolingo is slightly lacking in that department. If you use flashcard based language tools you will be way more succesful than just with this website/app alone.

    July 17, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/local_veggies

    Yeah but what about Tinycards?

    July 18, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/local_veggies

    At first I did this to but then I just felt like it wasn't enough and kept on doing it but if you keep on doing it the way you are now then I guess you will still make progress but gradually over time. Infires!

    July 18, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Karmagith

    You say you are motivated by watching / listening to japanese, so I would suggest trying to find more materials like this in japanese where you want to watch them each day because they are interesting to you, not because you have to. Ideally this material should be at or a little bit higher than your level. The more of this kind of material you have, the easier a time you will have accidentally being motivated.

    July 19, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Fire-Water

    Make your goals attainable. Start small and praise yourself along the way. On days with time and you are on a role - just do more. Don't be hard on yourself when you don't make it, but only praise for anything and everything you do (remember most don't even do this- so you are already special.) Even a little everyday counts. I also take the challenge by holding on to streaks for extra lingots (don't want to loose what you invested- instead double them.) Good luck and don't give up on yourself.

    July 22, 2018
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