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Include IPA in lessons?

I think it would be easier to use the International Phonetic Alphabet for choosing the sounds made letters and syllables. There's a lot of confusion in the current system.

July 22, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/RanzoG

There is no confusion in the current system. It's a transliteration system, a way of representing Devanagari in Latin alphabet.

It's not a way to tell you how to make the sounds of the language without hearing them.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/wombatua

As long as they taught the IPA. I know it about as well as I know the Devanagari script, which isn't saying much...

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/vinay92
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The goal of this course is to teach Hindi through Devanagari. So, it makes sense to start with the Latin letters according to the ISO15919 transliteration scheme which has a 1-1 correspondence with the Devanagari letters. If you are familiar with IPA, refer to this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Hindi_and_Urdu) as a rough guide to the pronunciation of the letters.

July 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Nandi.Moksha

@Vinay92, Thanks for sharing, I don't remember ISO15919 although I have seen the IAST -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Alphabet_of_Sanskrit_Transliteration

An IPA learning course on Duolingo would be awesome and even better if we could see IPA in the lessons.

Here's a really neat IPA Speech Synthesizer Tool I found today - https://dood.al/pinktrombone/

Although, from my understanding the way Sanskrit was originally devised it's an ingenious natural ancient IPA of sorts, is it not?

July 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/vinay92
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Yes. ISO15919 is mostly an extension of IAST to encompass all Indic scripts and languages.

As a phonetic language, Sanskrit could be said to be similar to IPA in many ways. However, it is to be noted that Sanskrit is not immune to vowel and consonant shifts which can be seen in the differences between Vedic and classical Sanskrit.

July 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Nandi.Moksha

You make a great point about vowel and consonant shifts, etc.

You may be able to appreciate the book linked below, especially page 122, "Effects of Unchaste phonation" (Just BYOD - Bring your own Damaru):

Unveiling the Atlantis of Sanskrit Phonology by Achyut Karve -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-jgSVqK5Ul3RHZwR3ItRHVPNkk/ (Full PDF)

July 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Karina49275

I completely agree with you.

July 28, 2018
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