https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

List of courses with missing audio

I thought it might be useful to have a post that listed the courses that have no audio or partial audio for people. There was a post on this previously:

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/24191238/What-courses-don-t-have-audio

However, the list of courses was given in the responses, so I figured I'd just post a list on its own. If anyone knows roughly how much of the audio in these courses is complete, let me know and I'll add that information as well. The same thing goes for any courses that I might have missed in the list or any that I've wrongly included.

The chief (only?) reason why audio is missing is that the language in question has to have all words and phrases recorded manually rather than using a TTS (text-to-speech) program, which is much more labour intensive and considerably more expensive. I suspect that this is going to be a roadblock to getting courses in languages with few native speakers although the addition of Hawaiian to the incubator indicates that DL isn't opposed to making the effort under certain circumstances.

COURSES WITH NO AUDIO

High Valyrian

Swahili

Klingon

COURSES WITH PARTIAL AUDIO

Hungarian (nearly complete)

Vietnamese (nearly complete)

Ukrainian (sound possibly completed?)

Esperanto (all versions?) (80% complete)

Hebrew

Irish

Guarani

Czech

July 22, 2018

43 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jzsuzsi
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It would be great if Duolingo added audio to Swahili and Klingon. Having audio makes a big difference.

About Hungarian, I copy my comment I wrote when someone asked about Hungarian frozen in beta.

"A Duo course can graduate from beta, if the number of reports stay under a given limit for two weeks.

Here is the catch: if the team wants bigger changes, like adding/deleting/rearraging skills, it can be done only by building a tree version 2. But starting tree 2 is only possible after the course graduated from beta. So structural problems cannot be fixed now.

The other issue is the sound. Most of the sentences have sound, but not all. This uses real voice recordings (while many other Duo courses have Text-To-Speech). If a Hungarian sentence is wrong (grammatically incorrect, or nonsense) it can be deleted, and replaced with a better sentence. But in this process, we lose a sentence with sound and gain a sentence without sound. (Which will result in people sending "there is no sound" reports, and increase the report rate)."

(here: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/27949411)

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xMira_

"About Hungarian, I copy my comment I wrote when someone asked about Hungarian frozen in beta.

"A Duo course can graduate from beta, if the number of reports stay under a given limit for two weeks.

Here is the catch: if the team wants bigger changes, like adding/deleting/rearraging skills, it can be done only by building a tree version 2. But starting tree 2 is only possible after the course graduated from beta. So structural problems cannot be fixed now."

That seems so backwards.... No wonder Korean has such a hard time...

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Well, Korean's out of beta, so no worries on that front precisely.

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xMira_

Yeah, but when it was in beta everyone was complaining about the formatting, and apparently the contributors couldn't even work on it while they were trying to get it out of beta.

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Songve

I am almost finished the third of five modules in Vietnamese. So far, the audio seems fairly complete and I would not classify it as partial. It has a good mix of audio only for translation, automatic audio for sentences for translation, and no audio for sentences but you can click and hear. Someone who has competed the course could confirm if same holds true for the remaining two modules or if you want to wait until tomorrow for my opinion after I complete the course...just kidding.

BTW, I find the audio to be a good mix of easy to difficult in understanding it. Some sentences I have to Follow to practice listening to train my ears to hear it. A few I was convinced no way are they saying what the Vietnamese sentence says but all have been confirmed via native speakers or Google audio translator. I welcome conversational speed even though it is really challenging at times. Real world stuff is good.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

Thanks! I've added "nearly complete" to the description. I started Vietnamese at one point last year and I didn't get any audio at the beginning, so I assume either things have changed or I was having some sort of problem the first time.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KGM134

I'm restarting the Vietnamese course and the lack of audio is very noticeable. The Hungarian course also has missing audio and is much less noticeable in comparison. Unfortunately this makes it so I have a really hard time getting used to the pronunciation.

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Maeva_LC

I am at the beginning too, and it's not nearly complete, there are huge lack at the start of the tree...

July 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zanzaboonda

I tried it again, hoping something had changed. I can only speak for the very beginning, but there are definitely large chunks missing. It almost seems like a technical issue, tbh. I know very little about the contributor side, but the audio that's missing (as far as I've noticed) is for words that do already have audio. It seems to be just randomly missing.

July 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gervanb

I am taking french and have had no audio since the change over. I do have audio with all other websites on my computer so the problem seems to be with Duolingo. I have complained but heard nothing and nothing has changed. I am doing this course without audio and it would certainly help. Please, Duolingo...do something about this problem.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

You should definitely have audio available in the French course, with the exception of a few isolated phrases on certain exercises (generally on the "match" exercises an expression with multiple words don't have audio attached, but the audio is available in other exercises).

Have you filed a bug report?

https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us/articles/204728264-How-do-I-report-a-bug-

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gervanb

Up until what I refer to as the change over I always had sound and since then nothing. I did send in a bug report and didn't hear anything back. Now that you have brought up the subject I will send in another complaint. I am quite happy with Duolingo but would appreciate having sound...I did check my settings and they are fine. Thank you for getting back to me.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gervanb

I wrote the above three months ago and still have no audio taking French. With Duolingo French cards I do not have a problem or on any other website. I feel that I'm really missing a lot by not having sound.

October 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Do you have audio if you go to the Duolingo homepage as if you were a new user and start a course? (you can without signing up)

October 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gervanb

I did what you suggested, and still heard nothing. I might think it is me or my computer but I have no problem at all with sound on any other sites. Thanks for the suggestion...

October 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sartanamac

Hola como estas como terminaste la clase de guarani

July 3, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Bueno, haciendo las lecciones ;)

July 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sartanamac

fue facil o dificil para ti aprender guarani en duolingo Como puedo leer y pronunciar todas las palabras de todas las lecciones de esta clase en Duolingo

July 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

El curso actual usa muchos prestamos lingüísticos del castellano, lo cual facilita el aprendizaje pero reduce la cantidad de vocabulario más tradicionalmente guaraní que se aprende.

El tema de la pronunciación está un poco complicado debido a la ausencia de audio, pero la mayoría de las letras representan los mismos sonidos que en castellano. Aquí está una introducción al sistema fonético: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonolog%C3%ADa_del_guaran%C3%AD

July 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sartanamac

Cuantas clases terminaste de aprender en duolingo .

July 4, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/malfruemulo

The old version of the Esperanto tree had audio for basically every single sentence. However, the sentences added in the new 2.0 tree do not yet have audio. I'd say this accounts to about 20% of the course's sentences.

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

Thanks, I've updated the list with that information.

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/malfruemulo

The contributors recently posted in the incubator that everyone should be on version 2 now, so yes, this is currently true of “all versions” (though there’s only one version).

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/2Milena

Ukrainian misses audio? :(( So far,I didn't notice that.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

You're actually better placed than I am since you're doing the course. I have to admit that I just copied that one from the earlier list (in the linked post) but I don't have first-hand knowledge.

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LICA98

it's because they use a native speaker instead of TTS so not all sentences have audio (and there are other issues like no slow version and you can't listen to separate words)

July 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

There's a bit missing, but not too much. The volume's kind of low though, so I think there are some people that miss it just because they don't have their speakers turned up high enough.

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Guarani's a weird case. The audio exists (only missing for a very small fraction of sentences). But some glitch has happened that it doesn't play at the normal time anymore (the contributors have said Duolingo is working on it...). However, you could still listen on the discussion pages. But now there's the glitch that seems to be affecting the entire site that you can't often hear audio on discussion pages...

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tropicalnut

I haven't worked on Guarani for a while, but I am getting back to it and sadly the audio is missing. I even went back to the early lessons and tried them. No audio :(

March 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Seattle_Scott

Czech is missing a lot of audio. Word selection has no audio, which is disappointing. I’m more interested in speaking and hearing than reading. There is some audio, but it’s intermittent

July 24, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katred2

I've only just started Czech, so I haven't noticed this yet, so thank you for pointing it out. I've added it to the list.

July 26, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/WinterSoldier.

Since when is there a Guarani course?

July 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MetroWestJP

Catalan and Guarani (Jopará) are only taught from Spanish. Catalan was added 20 November 2015, and Guarani (Jopará) was added 15 September 2016. So far, they're the only two courses not available from English.

November 18, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/itsneumann

I don't see any comments since Hawaiian and Navajo go added and I'm wondering if Hawaiian has no or partial audio? Since they're both new, it would make sense (especially for Navajo) but I also know Duolingo worked with a bunch of enthusiastic native speakers for months to create the Hawaiian course, at least. Idk if it's the course or just my phone (I checked to see if audio worked properly with my other courses and it does). Anyone got any answers, please?

October 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Hawaiian has partial audio.

October 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/itsneumann

Thanks! I've had some horrible audio issues with my phone lately so I'm glad to know it's not just another one on the pile

October 25, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tropicalnut

Navajo doesn't have audio yet at least not for me.

March 7, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MetroWestJP

You can add Navajo under no audio and Hawaiian under partial audio. I took the placement test for Navajo and nothing was spoken. The only audio in the first lesson of Hawaiian is the word "aloha". Is there any way to crowdsource some of the labor involved? I wouldn't mind volunteering time to key in IPA symbols or whatever it is they do to generate the audio.

November 18, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

They either record real people or use text-to-speech (which I doubt is an available option for Hawaiian or Navajo)

November 18, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PapaJoker

Absolutely no related to the post but something someone might find funny, i aim to learn Vietnamese because of a game i play Rising Storm 2: Vietnam. I think it'd be so epic to actually speak it and freak people out - and hey if i ever meet someone who speaks it cool right? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

July 23, 2018
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