Duolingo is not the best tool to learn a new language!
Duolingo is good if you just want to start with a new language, but it is not a proper tool to become fluent in languages. It is a fun and new way of learning, so it cannot be as easy as it seems at the first sight. It is mainly just a vocabulary lessons and none of the language's grammar. Don't get me wrong, I just want to point out that Duolingo is not the only way you can learn, it can be just a help or if you want to learn just a basics. If you really want to learn a new language don't learn it just on Duolingo, learn it on other fun way, try finding a website which suits your needs (as Duoilingo, Memrise, Lingodeer,Innovative, etc.), I also recommend of buying a dictionary to help with language learning. I hope this helps somebody!
Regarding grammar, some courses are better than others. The French from English course is excellent. The Spanish from English course was weak and now they've taken away almost all of the few Tips & Notes it did have.
I agree 100%. Duolingo is an excellent place to start if you have zero knowledge - but no single resource can teach you a language, and Duo can only take a person to around an A2 (less in speaking/listening).
Yes, some languages are better than others. I feel like most do well at teaching basic grammar systematically, even if some notes and tips aren’t available. For me Japanese was the exception, and was rather weak in presenting grammar systematically, but the others...by the time you reach the end of a course you’ve been presented all the main verb tenses and other grammatical concepts.
Memrise and lingodeer are cute, but lacking in depth even compared to Duo, with less lesson structure. Memrise just feels like a collection of useful phrases.
No, you won’t get fluent here as it is, but I do wonder what Duo and other online language courses will look like in five or ten years.
yes, I am indeed very thankful that Spanish was not the first Romance language which I learned on Duolingo.
What you say about French is also true for English-Portuguese.
Contributors even re-created / restructured several grammar skills with an updated tree in June 2018 (tree is now final!): https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/27497456/The-new-Portuguese-Tree-is-under-Test-D-D-D
Quote: The Spanish from English course was weak and now they've taken away almost ALL of the few Tips & Notes it did have.
There wasn't there too much before!!!
I had counted 13 (old tree) vs 9 (new tree) notes for the EN-SP course:
This is not really a huge difference for "tips and notes" (on the web / duome.eu).
But you forgot to add that staff recently added "mobile grammar notes" (exclusively) to their IOS plattform for the new English-Spanish course (see this offical confirmation by Myra): https://www.duolingo.com/comment/28102715$from_email=comment&comment_id=28130912
So new Spanish learners, which have not been in contact with Spanish or Romance language before in general, are locked down to either use external Spanish grammar references or are forced to use the IOS app, before it will be rolled out to Android and hopefully "tips and notes" will be rewritten for the web portal.
Good to know! I had not seen Myra's announcement, and I rarely use IOS so I was completely in the dark on that. Thank you :)
Duolingo does teach grammar - by example. I agree, however, that most of us are not going to absorb all the grammar taught that way, unless we supplement with other resources.
I disagree. In spanish it is almost all grammar lessons and not as much vocabulary. But that’s any easy fix because I can get more vocab anywhere. I can’t necessarily get good grammer lessons on how to speak, listen, & write. I do agree that having something else to help you might be a good idea but I would not say that Duolingo is inferior in anyway. Especially since it comes in near the top when looking for the best language learning systems and it’s free. The language systems that beat it are about $180. It also could be your particular language. But I wouldn’t label Duolingo all together not that great. But that’s just my opinion and I have not taken the language that you are currently learning. But generally everyone says you should use another system as well. Remember, it free. I am so grateful for whatever I do get out of Duolingo and for me it’s a lot but then I’m taking Spanish so maybe it’s different.
I've had several failed attempts at learning different languages, on Duolingo and off (Spanish, German, Japanese, 1 previous attempt at Hindi).
Previously my attempts have all centred around understanding grammar because I like learning rules, while vocab learning is tedious and hard.
The new approach I am taking which seems much more successful is to focus initially almost entirely on vocab and the grammar can be sorted out later on.
What is missing from Duolingo compared to platforms like Rosetta Stone is having exercises without the text on the screen to enhance listening skills. I do some exercises with my finger or a piece of paper covering up the text.
Duolingo does have exercises where you listen and then type what you heard with no words on the screen. You probably just need to turn your "Word Bank" feature off. This is what it looks like:
Duolingo teached me many things about this language, I know that my English is weak yet, but duolingo is an excellent tool to learn. Everyone who learns new languages listen to music and read a lot.