"Assalamualaikum, selamat idul fitri."
Translation:Greetings, happy Eid.
Muslims who speak English as their first language still say Eid Mubarak AFAIK
It is too early in the learning process for religious specific teachings. As a new learner, this will be an extremely unlikely statement.
If you travel to Indonesia during Ramadam, or make Indonesian friends the expression, Selamat Idul Fitri would be used as often as Merry Christmas. Learning a language should also include some understanding of culture. I suspect in has been included for that reason.
Understand though, this appeared on my second module of greetings. Regardless of how common it is during Ramadan, Merry Christmas would not be anywhere near the top of a beginner English class. While culture should be included, it is only useful after a good base is established.
That makes sense; although Indonesia is a very religious country. I would probably not include it as part of these lessons either. My comment was more of a statement as to why they did. Enjoy the course.
I've seen many people "angry" with muslim expression during this course. I really do not know why. Learning a language is learning a culture and indonesia is the country with the most muslins in the world. What if a muslim starts the english Duo course and then come across with "Merry Christmas"? Would the "angry people" agree with the muslins that regard it as a tendentious course? Good point, lockers001.
I can’t speak for everyone, but as I stated above, if it was placed in the same status/urgency as everyday vocabulary. Than yes, I would have a huge issue. Personally I don’t think any holiday particulars are necessary. I just spent 6 weeks in Indonesia, and was lucky enough to be there during Galungan and Kuningan and was taught by locals how to greet people during those particular holidays. So again, teach me the basics and the culture will come naturally
I agree. This is how people greet each other in Indonesia, which happens to be majority Muslim. Part of learning the language and effectively communicating in said language is participating in it's culture. Religion is so ingrained in their culture that using a Muslim greeting is as natural to them as saying "Hello" or "How's it going?" to us. It's just how it's done.
The issue is not the fact that it’s religious or cultural. It’s that a greeting that can only be use part of the year, or with only one group of people cannot be considered a general greeting. More it up to a higher level as it is not as useful as other greetings for beginner/ leaning purposes.
I already find it quite a lot to include THREE general religious greetings in the basic greeting unit, but putting in festival specific religious greetings at this point in the course, is extremely questionable, to outright brainwashing. And you can't complete the unit without having to answer correctly. :( I'd down vote it by way more then one voice, if I could!
Yeah ,you are definitely getting brainwashed by hearing a holiday phrase. Do you think someone wants to brainwash you into becoming a tolerant Person?
This is weird. So far "good" was totally acceptable for "selamat", but in this particular case the hover suddenly says "mubarak/congratulate/congratulations" and when you answer "good" it tells you it should have been "happy". I'm seriously tempted to spam them with "mubarak morning/afternoon/evening" and request it to be considered correct. A site like duolingo really shouldn't go around changing general translation indicators to fit a single religious inspired sentence. I really don't get why they haven't scraped this sentence all together. Or at least moved it to skill 53.
Not all words have 1:1 translations. As explained in the lesson, Selemat can be used in general greetings as well as blessings such as Happy Birthday or Merry Christmas. Selemat seems to be a word that indicates a wish for general well-being towards the listener. That can mean, good, happy, merry, safe, trouble-free etc...
It has a lot of meanings, which sometimes can cause issues...
It is perfectly acceptable to say: "Selamat Lebaran" (Happy Holiday)for non-Muslims. This would be better then the very specific Arabic/Religeous formulas Duo Lingo uses
I wonder whether there is the same amount of outcry in the Irish course, where Dia dhuit and Dia is Muire dhuit are introduced straight away.
If it’s just an everyday greeting that has religious indications than it’s not a problem.
The issue here is that a seasonal greetings that can only be used once a year for only one day is been taught above everyday greetings.
The fact that Duolingo never sorts it's lessons by frequency of usage and doesn't start with common things is not the issue. Your dislike of religion is.
I don't care about Irish course, I learn Indonesian. Or lets discuss here Klingon or something of the kind?
I am sorry that you failed to realize the relevance of my comment to this discussion.
According to the dictionary, selamat = Mubarak, idul fitri = Eid, but selamat idul fitri = Eid Mubarak and not Mubarak Eid??? Why? Because Arabic? But this is an Indonesian to English course, not an Indonesian to Arabic course...
The translation of "Greetings" is incorrect. It should not use the Arabic, it should use the Indonesian language of "Salam pembuka."
Most people I have met simply say, Selamat Idul Fitri ... probably because they are non muslim greeting muslims ... and ... the banners spread across Indo use the same expression.
The translation is changed to 'Greetings, happy Eid'. However: 'Happy' is not a selectable word in the answer so I am forced to use the alternative text input method for this question.
I'm personally not offended by what they put I was just confused that there was an English translation for a word that I never knew existed and when I translated it something that was obviously not English or any Germanic or Latin word so I was just like whaaatttt Lol
I have an issue but I am not sure where to report it or find help. Since I got above level 3 of so in the greetings lesson, all listening exercises use the turtle speed by default. I find it quite annoying to always have to tap the regular speed button while I hear 'aaaassssaaaalaaaaam....' any idea where I can change the default to normal speed?