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Caution: I am not a native speaker, but I will try to answer based on what little I already know.
Indonesian relies mostly on context for this. Here, for example, it is pretty obvious that the sentence is about apples and oranges in general, otherwise the sentence would be something like: "Saya suka apel dan jeruk ini". apel ini, jeruk ini = this apple, this orange.
Yes, you're right.
It depends on the context.
If it's obvious from the context that you're talking about the plural form, then the plural form (reduplication) is not used.
Like in this sentence, it's interpreted as apples & oranges in general, so there is no need to reduplicate (apel-apel).
A more obvious example is this :
I have one book = Saya punya satu buku.
I have two books = Saya punya dua buku.
I have many books = Saya punya banyak buku.
Yes, that's right.
It feels like more fruit is coming ... the word "and" (dan) comes before the last fruit.
Something like this :
Saya suka apel, jeruk, pisang, stroberi, ceri, rambutan dan durian.
I think you're right.
It's an unfinished sentence.
This person simply couldn't finish the sentence with all that fruit.
:-)
Durian ?
Yes, that's my favourite fruit.
Durian is a little bit controversial, a lot of people can't stand the smell, therefore it's usually forbidden to bring durian into a hotel or public buildings.
But the taste...hmmmm...there is nothing like it.
Durian = King of Fruits
☺
More info here about 'durian"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian
'duri' = thorns.
"Suka" is almost the same as 好き (suki) in Japanese, meaning the same thing. Wiktionary doesn't mention anything about it, but do they share the same etymology?
It would make more sense in English to insert and = I like apples and oranges. I like apples, oranges is not really an English sentence.
So is there no difference between singular and plural? I would appreciate if someone could explain. Thanks
Why apple instead of apples, and orange instead of oranges are incorrect?
There is no indication of singular or plural in this sentence
I thought for plurals that the word is repeated with a hyphen; e.g. apples = apel-apel.
I thought for plurals that the word is repeated with a hyphen; e.g. apples = apel-apel.
Yes, that's right.
If reduplication is used to indicate the plural form, then the word is repeated using a hyphen.
But in this sentence there is no need for a reduplication to indicate the plural form.
The sentence (more or less) indicates that we're talking about apples & oranges in general.
So, we're talking about more than one apple.
So, no need for reduplication.
Yes, you can put the word twice to show that it was plural. But we can also use "Beberapa" to show if that was plural
Not necessary, if I remember what I red before, there can be words where you are able to put the word twice to make the plural but some other words have another form or can't be put twice. If a native speaker passes here, correct me thanks !
Yes, some words like hati means heart but hati hati means 'careful' from what I know but I am not a native speaker
Ya, but as long as i know there is only 2 words that has different mean if you put it once and twice. They are "hati hati (careful, be careful)" and "sama sama (you're welcome)" but if you want to get more information about it just googling for "kata ulang" ;)
Its weird that even when I can speak in bahasa, I study it. Proof: Itu aneh saya bisa berbicara dengan bahasa Indonesia tetapi saya belajar.
I think you ' re right It's an unfinished sentence This person simply couldn ' t Finish the sentece with all That fruit :-(
I feel like this should actually be I like oranges and apples, because when writing this the sentence doesn’t really end and ther isn’t another word after it
They shouldn't penalize for plurals or lack thereof as there's no way to know
Exactly who talks like that. Supposed to be Saya suka apel dan jeruk. Please fix
The translation would be better if there was the word and inbetween apples AND oranges.
Actual translation in Indo: Saya suka apel dan jeruk (I like apples and oranges)
Here a tip: you can put every countable noun twice to show that is was plural
Ex: "Mobil Mobil" "Kuda kuda" "wortel wortel" etc. but its not work for uncountable noun bcos uncountable noun has no plural form. But you can use another form of a noun word.
Ex: you can't say "lot of water" as "air air" but you can say "botol botol air (more than one bottle full of water)" "ember ember air" etc. Although some native speaker still said "air air" to show more than two containers with water inside (no matter if it's was full or not)
