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In the exercise it says "Dimas ball is white". If her name is Dima then it should be "Dima's ball is white". If her name is Dimas then it should be "Dimas' ball is white".
I'm not sure if it's been fully added in the options available to pick for the answer - didn't have an apostrophe when I did this today :(
Same for me it is March 1 2019 and mine still doesn't have Dimas' ball is white
An apostrophe without a following "s" is added to indicate possession only when the noun itself ends in "s" AND is plural -- like "the cows' owner." Since "Dimas" is singular, the plural form would be "Dimas's."
Up until now, it would not have occurred to me to use -s's where a possessive is involved in respect of a noun ending in -s. That applies to personal names too. However, you made me look up the rules and found that Fowler's Modern English Usage states: Use 's for the possessive case in English names and surnames, including those which end in s, thus -s,s. Examples: Charles's, St James's Square etc. It is customary to omit the 's when the last syllable of the name is pronounced as /iz/ as in Bridges', Moses' etc. There are a host of rules pertaining to the use of an apostrophe but this forum does not lend itself to studying English to the nth degree as, after all, we are here to learn the Indonesian language
I don't think that rule is hard and fast. In fact, it's very common (and often taught as the rule) /not/ to add an 's' when the when a proper singular noun already ends in 's'. For example: "Chris' book".
For what it's worth, of the potential rules, I kind of like the one this article suggests: https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/
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Yes, there should be an apostrophe after "S" (Dimas').
Correction: Dimas is male (masculine) hehe!
It's common in Indonesia that Dimas is the name of a man. So i think it's his not her
It needs an apostrophe to be possessive in English, otherwise you could have a sentence like "It is a white Dimas football / soccer ball."
- 1898
So how would you say 'Dimas' white ball'? 'Bola putih Dimas'? But wouldn't that mean 'a white ball is Dimas''?
Can someone explain how multiple adjectives work, and how to tell whether there is an implied copula or not?
Dimas' white ball would be translated as " Bola putih Dimas" Object first, then adjective, then possessive. If you wanted to emphasise the adjective you would say "Bola yang putih Dimas" or "Dimas' ball that is white.
Bola putih milik Dimas would be translated as a white ball that belongs to Dimas
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The 's is needed even if Dimas's name ends in --s. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/punctuation/apostrophe#apostrophes_showing_possession
This is solved in Esperanto exercises by adding an element to the word bank that shows "--'s".
That element needs to be added to the Word Bank here too.
- 1898
The 's is needed even if Dimas's name ends in --s. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/punctuation/apostrophe#apostrophes_showing_possession
That is Oxforddictionaries' opinion on what is really a matter of style, not a grammatical law from on high. It is perfectly acceptable to take the opposing position that names ending in '-s' should simply take an apostrophe and no final 's'. Both of these practices have had long and widespread use. The English language has no governing body to rule that one is wrong and one is right (as much as Oxforddictionaries might like to pretend to do so).
The guideline I like to follow is that I use apostrophe-s after s if the letter before the s is a vowel, otherwise I just use an apostrophe. I don't think this is an official rule anywhere, I just picked it up from a former English teacher and it's the way that makes the most sense to me.
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You'll still get mocked if you write like that. Your choice! But as you say, we don't take our orders from an 'Academy' and a good thing too.
- 1898
I'm sorry, but I can't seem to find in your post any reasoned disagreement with what I wrote. You will get mocked if you argue like that; your choice...
"The ball of Dimas is white" should be accepted. "Someone's thing" is the same as "The thing of Someone", it's basic and general English, the exact same meaning, and then don't have to think about Dimas or Dimas' , it's clear... Please add it to the accepted translations!
While technically true that the "y of x" is equivalent to "x's y" in English, the latter is much more idiomatic, particularly in modern English. That's so true, in fact, that I think leaving out the former might be justified. It really depends on the intent of the course creators. :) For example, how many more permutations of accepted answers need to considered to make this allowance? Is it worth doubling the whole set?
This needs an apostrophe. The 'correct' answer is not correct in English.
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There's no apostrophe signifying possession available in the English translation for this exercise.
Does anyone else have an issue with the audio? It sounds to me more like
Buah labi mas putih...
- 1042
This is a bit of a gray area. I think either Dimas' or Dimas's is correct.
https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/apostrophe.html https://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp
Sorry, but I am Dimas... And my balls are not white. So how should we correct this?
Please correct this already. Pretty obnoxious to correct for apostrophe when we miss it but not fix in your version.
Her name is Dimas. The apostrophe is after the s. So its pronounced Dimas's. It's correct.
- 1042
It's in the correct place.
- the ball of Dima -> Dima's ball
- the ball of Dimas -> Dimas' ball
