How am I to effectively learn French speaking and listening?
I'm doing great in French with Duolingo, however it's not helping me at all in understanding what French people are saying, nor can I speak the language yet.
I can do wonderfully when it comes to reading and writing because of Duolingo, but in actual conversations I'm like a baby and know about 3 words it feels like vs the 1700+ French words Duolingo says I should know.
French people speak so fast and there's always 5 different ways to say the same thing.
Films are awful, full of "slick" people talking too fast and too "street". Old b&w movies are better. Politicians, some newsreaders, priests(!), weather forecasters are the best. As for real people, just say "doucement svp" and slow them down. If they are too intolerant to speak slowly and try to understand your hesitant French, they aint worth talking to!
Try French TV, film and radio, there is plenty of it on the Internet.
I find Memerise has lots of naturally spoken French and is a good compliment to DL.
My French wife thinks that the French voice on DL is pretty odd, and she says it says somethings in a very strange way. I suppose that's an inherent limitation of the platform. I'm currently doing the reverse tree, English from French, and the English accent isn't great either...!
I'm now able to read basic French books without too much of a problem, but as you say conversation speed spoken language is still challenging!
Thanks! I just gave that a try. I like that I can understand people better. Not sure how it'll do for my speaking abilities.
You need to speak as often as possible and interact with native speakers as much as possible. There is no shortcut.
I learned to speak and understand by supplementing with a ton of French listening. I carry podcasts in French on my MP3 player everywhere I go.
you should use italki to connect with native speakers. It has helped me and continues to help me immensely
It would be great if you could do written and spoken exercises on their own, on the different levels you're currently at for each. My written French is way ahead of my spoken French.
Learn to listen with the French I course found on this site: http://oli.cmu.edu/learn-with-oli/see-all-oli-courses/ It's $10 US.
I hope this isn't too discouraging but I've now listened to France Inter by internet radio each morning for about 3 years. I still don't get what is actually being said - maybe it's just me. I carry on because it fascinates me how difficult French is! My pronunciation is, however, much better. If I could slow it down maybe I'd be able to understand it.
That's a bit like trying to learn English from Radio 1 in the UK or a Shock Jock in the US! Far better to register with lefigaro.fr, the website of the newspaper Le Figaro, and listen to FigaroLive which plays alongside the written word (bottom right hand corner of my screen).
The enunciation is as clear as you would expect from a professional newsreader and the headlines point you in the right direction. Alternatively try France24, widely available via You Tube with the French News in French
As a french citizen, I just have to inform you that LeFigaro is a conservative (almost far right) newspaper. So if you are not into politics I suggest to listen to podcast of FranceCulture or FranceInter.
The morning is a bit busy and fast, I suppose. I found some things easier to understand - the mid morning travelling quiz from different towns. The world travel programme with a man with a lovely smokey, jazzy voice and the late night "serial" (often a roman policier) Now it's all changed. They've kicked out all the old "radio bleu" type things and the "zoo radio" programme is awful! 1700, repeated at midnight (UK time)
Thanks, I might try listening at other times of the day. France Bleu - I usually go for Armorique - can be easier, though, I agree. Is the world travel programme still on?
No, I think the guy retired. Daniel Mermet. He had a lovely voice and talked quite slowly. He was like a traveller/philosopher/bon vivant type! Last program was in 2014, I think? https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/la-bas-si-j-y-suis