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While my Arab friends are happy that I (a non-muslim) greet them with this, and affirm that non-muslims in arab countries can freely use this greeting, Malaysian Muslims get absolutely enraged (to the point of making police reports and death threats) if this greeting is used by a non-muslim. Sigh.
I would kindly invite everyone to calm down with this anti-religious fervor. :) This is just a greeting, and it means "peace be upon you". I understant that the anti-religious propaganda in the Western world has made people extremely knee-jerkish, but please, this is just language learning. If you have a problem with "assalamualaikum", you should also have a problem with the word "goodbye", as it comes from "God be with you". Shall we banish "goodbye" from English Duolingo? :D Peace be upon you, and God be with you.
Connotations and implict meanings matter; don't be a troll. "Goodbye" does not actively, in the minds of modern speakers, contain religious implications, where as this phrase very much does, and signals belonging to a religious tradition.
You're etymological argument isn't the clever "gotcha!" you think it is
Im not even muslim nor Indonesian myself but why would you be bothered to learn BI when you are obviously islamophobic? Learning a language is not just about memorizing vocabulary and grammar rules, it also means embracing the culture. What even is the point of learning BI when you obviously can not give up your typical western attitude?
This is NOT about religion....its about the fact that this work is almost never used in day to day conversations when one or people are not Moslem. I lived in Jakarta for over 3 years and never heard this used outside of formal meetings or amongst my Indonesian family when they didn't realise I was there.
This should not be included in this beginners course.
As a Bule who's been spending about 2 months a year in Jakarta for business over 4 years, I've never heard the word used towards me, if at all. It's used mainly muslim to muslim as far as I can tell so It pretty much has no value for me....and it's really difficult to spell!
Accepting "greetings" but not "hello" is excessively specific, regardless of the ethno-religious context. Most people who have even a passing familiarity with Arabic even in the west understand this is a simple greeting synonymous with "hi, hello, etc" In the modern period in English, nobody says "greetings" unless it's in a very formal context such as a lecture or some other public speaking event
This is a form of greeting used exclusively by Muslims. Other populations do not use them. It is not necessary to use it in these exercises. Muslims among themselves know how to deal with it. - registered April 30, 2021This is a form of greeting used exclusively by Muslims. Other populations do not use them. It is not necessary to use it in these exercises. Muslims among themselves know how to deal with it. - registered April 30, 2021