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What's the difference between "Anda" and "Kamu"?

August 21, 2018

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"Anda" is formal and "kamu" is less formal

August 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/WaterPolyglot

Thanks!

August 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JessePaedia

'Anda' is formal, and 'kamu' is informal.

'Anda' is used with strangers who are older than you. However, if someone is old enough to be your mum or dad (or older), you would use 'bu' or 'pak' to refer to them.

'Kamu' is used between individuals of the same age or younger. It is usually used between friends.

Also, bare in mind, Indonesians often use someone's name instead of a variant 'you'. E.g. I've been asked "Jesse mau ke mana?".

August 21, 2018

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Thanks!

August 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Linus.vbg

This is exactly the explanation that my Indonesian wife give me :)

August 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Julian_L.

According to English Wiktionary, the complete forms of 'bu' and 'pak' (i.e., 'ibu' and 'bapak') are also very formal ways to say "you". Do you know if there is any difference between the complete and the shorted forms?

August 22, 2018

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From my understanding, there isn't much of a difference. The completed forms are just slightly more formal. For example, you would say 'Bapak Presiden'.

Formality is an important aspect of Indonesian and Indonesian cultures. Even at university, I still refer to my lecturers for Indonesian as 'Bu' and 'Pak'.

August 22, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/Julian_L.

I think I understand.
And do you know an example where we would use 'Anda' instead of '(i)bu'? What you said about "if someone is old enough to be your mum or dad" got me confused.

August 27, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/joeldipops

I get the impression that Anda is rarely used in day-to-day speech. You kinda have to learn whether someone is a Bu, or a Mas or a Daeng or a Mba' or an Om and use that. If your experience is anything like mine, you'll find that whenever you're introduced to someone new, someone will say "This is Om Kimo" or whatever and you can go from there.

To make things easier, pronouns can be dropped pretty often in Indonesian, hence "Mau ke mana" rather than "Kamu mau ke mana?" etc so you can probably get away without knowing how to address someone in lots of situations.

August 28, 2018

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Usually, people use "Anda" on bussines stuff or when you're speaking to the public. (I)bu and (Ba)pak is still polite to refer someone (It's like mister and miss in English).

August 28, 2018

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So Anda can be singular and plural? Is Kalian too informal to be used when speaking to the public?

August 28, 2018

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The short term is still formal to use. "Ibu" in this context (Calling someone) mean "Miss" and "Bapak" mean "Mister", although in other context it mean "Mother" and "Father"

August 26, 2018

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Haven't studied too much Indonesian but Kamu might be informal and anda formal?

August 21, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/andraantariksa

Exactly, "Kamu" can be use on daily activity (to the younger/same-age people) when "Anda" usually use on business, formal activity or speaking to the public.

August 28, 2018
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