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"Me- verbs", Tips & Notes, Addendum.

"Me- verbs", Tips & Notes, Addendum.

https://www.duolingo.com/skill/id/Me--Verbs-1/tips-and-notes

The table on that page is not complete.
The following is missing:


words starting with "k" ==> (me+ng) + (base word - k)

kebut ==> mengebut
kejar ==> mengejar
kipas ==> mengipas


words starting with "s" ==> (me+ny) + (base word - s)

sapu ==> menyapu
sikat ==> menyikat


monosyllabic words ==> (me+nge) + (base word)

cat ==> mengecat
pel ==> mengepel
bom ==> mengebom


The table on that page states "verbs starting letter".
That implies that me- prefix is only used with verbs.
That is not correct.
It's used to form (mostly) transitive verbs, but the base word does not have to be a verb.


Thank you for reading.

Selamat belajar.


(4/feb/2019)...EDIT...below is the complete table...

Starting letter base word Conjugation
l, m, n, r, w Me + base
vowel, g, h Me + ng
c, d, j Me + n
b, f, v Me + m
k Me + ng – k
t Me + n – t
s Me + ny – s
p Me + m – p
monosyllabic Me + nge +base

Tinycards deck with examples :

https://tinycards.duolingo.com/decks/7XE3GxCr/me-prefix-bahasa-indonesia


August 24, 2018

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lezuardi

Indonesian affixes are basically anything-to-something-else super-convenient converter :-))


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanielVanD18

But when do I not use me-?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rick392366

But when do I not use me-?

When not to use 'me-' ?
That's very difficult to explain.
I think it's easier to explain it the other way around....when to use 'me-' ?

'me-' prefix is used to create a verb from a base word.
The base word can be from any word class (noun, verb,...).

Examples:
[me-] + [base word] = verb.
[me-] + [bantu (verb)] = membantu.
[me-] + [jawab (noun)] = menjawab.
[me-] + [baca (verb)] = membaca.

Dimas membantu muridnya.
Dimas menjawab pertanyaan murid.
Dimas membaca buku matematika.

Most of these 'me-'verbs are transitive (having a direct object in a sentence).
These example sentences have the same structure : (S-P-O).
S= Subject = Dimas
P = Predicate = the me-verbs : membantu, menjawab, membaca.
O = Object = the direct object in the sentence : muridnya, pertanyaan murid, buku matematika.

An active transitive sentence like this can be transformed into a passive sentence, like this :
Muridnya dibantu oleh Dimas.
pertanyaan murid dijawab oleh Dimas.
Buku matematika dibaca oleh Dimas.

These 'me-' verbs are active transitive, and the 'di-' verbs are the passive counterpart.

If you learn the 'me-', it's good to learn the passive counterpart as well, 'di-' verbs.

Here is a Tinycards deck with examples of the me-prefix :
https://tinycards.duolingo.com/decks/7XE3GxCr/me-prefix-bahasa-indonesia

Almost all the example sentences in that deck can be turned into a passive sentence using 'di-' verbs.
You can simply flip through the cards of the deck to get used to the 'conjugation'.

Remember that in everyday colloquial speech, the me- prefix is usually dropped.
So, it would be something like this :
Dimas bantu muridnya.
Dimas jawab pertanyaan murid.
Dimas baca buku matematika.

So, 'me-' is used to form a verb and make it more 'formal'.
The me- verbs are usually transitive.

'me-' prefix is seldom used with verbs like: makan, minum, mohon, ...


Here is more info :

Transitive & Intransitive verbs, Tips & notes, Addendum
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29750515

Passive type 1 and 2 , Tips & Notes, Addendum
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/31279476



https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanielVanD18

Thanks! Any tips for knowing them better? Or just practise them a lot. I find a lot of them are similar, so they get mixed up.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rick392366

I think the easiest way to remember the 'conjugation table' is to practise the base words per 'starting letter'.
Like in this deck :
https://tinycards.duolingo.com/decks/7XE3GxCr/me-prefix-bahasa-indonesia


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Calyfan

Hello! Is there a rule for when I should use ber- and when I should use me-? Thank you!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gill714966

If the base word is already a verb, what difference does the affix make?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ricchanse

one of the answer is: as the admin said, adding affix makes it more formal (and clearer meaning), while only using the base word is a casual/colloquial way. Of course, not using the affix somehow would make an ambiguous meaning in some contexts.

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