"Aku dan dia tidak dekat."
Translation:She and I are not close.
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Probably already been.answered but its much more likely to be used in the emotional sense of having a 'close' relationship with someone
If your PhD-holder friend said "Me and him are gonna run to the store; you two stay here", would you correct him/her, scoff, or otherwise comment about grammar? Likely not.
As long as you are understood by 98% of the population, it's tough to argue "right" vs wrong. There's common/intuitive use, awkward/uncommon use and plainly wrong use.
"I 20 horses had", wrong; "20 I had horses", wrong; "20 horses, I had", uncommon; "Horses, I had 20", uncommon; "I had 20 horses", common. etc.
tldr; it should he "Me and her"!
I see a lot of comments suggesting "Me and her" or "Her and me".
What i have learned at school is that these are possessive pronouns.
I know that it's used like that in everyday speech, but is it grammatically correct to use a possessive pronoun as a subject in a sentence ?
What do these pronouns possess ?
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'Me' is an accusative (or objective), not a possessive pronoun; 'my' and 'mine' are possessive pronouns. 'Her' can be both accusative and possessive, which is where your confusion might lie.
'Her' does not possess anything in the sentence 'I see her'; it does, however, in the sentence 'I see her dog'.
What is grammatically incorrect is using an accusative pronoun as a subject ('him and her have a dog'), although this can be met with dialectically; you can use a substantive possessive pronoun as a subject, though ('mine is a large scotch').
Thank you for the explanation.
"accusative pronoun" or "object pronoun", so that's what they're called, at least I know the terms/names right now.
I also asked this question in another sentence discussion :
https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/28550860
You and she think. (Duolingo exercise sentence)
You and her think. (Suggested in discussions).
She and I are not close. (Duolingo exercise sentence)
Her and me are not close. (Suggested in discussions).
Me and her are not close. (Suggested in discussions).
I'm still wondering if the suggested sentences are correct.
I always thought that the suggested sentences, using accusative pronouns, are gramatically incorrect.
However, I always see these suggestions pop up in sentence discussions.
What do you think ?
The grammatically correct sentences are:
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You and she think
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She and I are not close
The others are not correct because you cannot use object pronouns such as "me" and "her" as the subject of a verb (although many people do since they stopped teaching grammar in schools).
The pronouns that can be subject of the verb are: I, you, he, she, it, we, you, they
The pronouns that can be object of the verb are: me, you, him, her, it, us, you, them
This is on the verge actually of being wrong and accepted, but I do not agree with those who say that gramatically incorrect English sentences that show you understand should be accepted. A language program should not use gramatically incorrect language at all, not in the language being learned, and not in the learning language. Remember that a lot of people that are not native speakers learn the new language using English. They don't profit by learning new languages that are incorrect in English while learning Indonesian (or Greek or whatever).