"Ini gereja Katolik, itu gereja Kristen."

Translation:This is a Catholic church, that is a Christian church.

September 5, 2018

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/attilagaspar

I think in this context the correct translation for "Kristen" would be "Protestant", as it is only in the Indonesian language that Catholics and "Kristen" are signifying different groups.

September 5, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils

You would be surprised how many young Americans would make the same distinction. I was once teaching a medieval cultural history course and was asked by a student about two thirds of the way through the course whether we would ever read any Christian texts. We had read not only canon law, scholastic quaestiones, and saints' lives, but even some selections from the New Testament.

October 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/attilagaspar

wow, i would not have thought that, but I guess it is mostly ignorance from the students' parts while the distinction is official in the Indonesian language

October 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/joeldipops

I've spoken to evangelical Christians in Australia with the same opinion, but they are coming from a place of cynicism rather than ignorance, believing that Catholicism is not true Christianity.

I disagree and in the context of this sentence, agree that "that is a protestant church" should be the preferred translation, but "...christian church" should continue to be accepted.

February 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/JamesTWils

Religion is not something they encounter in school, and theology is something most of the churches now avoid teaching as well, so I can't really blame them.

October 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/attilagaspar

(I wasn't either)

October 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/tsuj1g1r1

Wiktionary just defines Kristen as “Christian,” does Kristen really mean “Protestant”?

December 9, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/arielkbt

No, "Protestan" is Protestant. "Kristen" is Christian. It's just that in Indonesia, Catholicism and (Protestant) Christianity are considered two different religions.

December 23, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/joeldipops

To my knowledge, when you sign up for a KTP (National Id card) you have to provide a religion, and "Kristen" is what all Protestants will use, not "Protestan". "Kristen" is the official term for that religion.

February 12, 2019
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