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Hindi course completed - review and resources! :) 

दो दिन पहले, मैंने हिंदी पेड़ पूरा कियी. धन्यवाद और अच्छा काम, हिंदी की कोर्स की टीम! 

I've completed the Hindi course in 22 days and finished it at 11th level. Before, I had no contact with Hindi or Devanagari script, so I've started out as a total beginner - but I've enjoyed it very much! I'd never expected to actually finish it, but it lured me in ;) I just hoped to learn Devanagari, but ended going through the entire course, because Hindi is indeed a beautiful language - and "exotic" languages are a weakness of mine ;)) Thank you, Hindi team!!! :) 


The Hindi course is quite short, so it doesn't cover much material, vocabulary-wise. The teaching of past tenses is a bit rushed, there probably should be more lessons (with more quirky sentences) to practice them. All the tenses also need Tips & Notes sections, as do "Modals" and "Imperative". 

The "Family" skills could use an explanation of Hindi family naming system. 

(https://www.omniglot.com/language/kinship/hindi.htm)  (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Hindi/Family_relations)  (https://www.brighthubeducation.com/studying-a-language/18030-hindi-vocabulary-for-relatives/


WHAT IS MISSING IN THE COURSE:   

  • daily phrases: hello, good morning/afternoon/day/evening/night, good luck, see you later, happy birthday, congratulations, nice to meet you etc. 

(https://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/hindi.php)  (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Hindi/Everyday_Phrases

  • numbers beyond 10: 20, 30..., 11, 21, etc. 

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_numerals)  (https://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/hindi.htm

  • more colors, like: brown, gray, orange, pink, violet, 

  • more adjectives like: narrow, wide, nice, mean, strong, weak, interesting, boring, free, light, dark, early, late, soft, hard, loud, quiet, heavy, wet, dry, empty, full, dirty, clean,  

(http://www.anilmahato.com/hindi-adjectives-list/

  • basic animals: goat, sheep, pig, chicken... (and some others: donkey, camel, lion, tiger, deer, fox, wolf, rabbit,  monkey, snake, frog, turtle, crocodile, lizard, insect, fly, beetle, butterfly, ...) 

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_of_India)

  • some very basic directions, such as: left, right, below, north, south, west, east, 

  • nature & weather: mountain, hill, sea, ocean, island, field, forest, jungle, snow, ice, smoke, fog, sunny, cloudy, windy, rainy,  

  • common food such as: bread, pasta, curry, cheese, pizza, coffee, juice, butter, soup, kinds of meat (pork, beef, chicken), meals (lunch, dinner, supper), more fruit & vegetables vocabulary,   

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_dishes)

  • city & places: restaurant, police, library, hospital, university, cinema, theater, zoo, hotel, airport, station, bus stop,  

  • vehicles: bike, scooter, motor, taxi, ship, boat, plane, train, bus, riksha,  

  • more basic vocabulary, like: map, phone, pen, plate, movie, tv, radio, rooms of a house, garden, etc.

  • commonly used verbs, such as those: understand, bathe, drive, travel, call, find, loose, pay, wait,

  • more advanced - culture, politics, economy, education and religion-related vocabulary: holidays, festival, to celebrate, law, crime, prison, thief, classroom, textbook, dictionary, religions' names,


PROPOSED SECTIONS TO ADD:

Greetings (!), Countries & Nationalities (!), Travel & Transport, Household & Items, City & Places, Occupations, Sports & Hobbies, Education, Economy, Science, Art & Music, Politics, Religion, Culture, Celebration,


Resources:   

(http://www.mindurhindi.com/)  (http://hindilanguage.info./)
(http:/www.anilmahato.com/)

  • Learning Devanagari: 

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Hindi_and_Urdu)  (https://www.omniglot.com/writing/hindi.htm)  (http://hindilanguage.info/devanagari/)  (http://www.mindurhindi.com/hindi-alphabet-table-content/

(http://www.hindiverbs.com/tenses.html)  (http://www.mindurhindi.com/hindi-grammar-rule/)  (http://hindilanguage.info/hindi-grammar/)  (https://blogs.transparent.com/hindi/tag/hindi-grammar/


The course won't teach you:   

  • how to greet somebody ("Greetings") 
  • how to ask for directions ("Directions", basic vocab and "City & Places") 
  • how to order most of the food in a restaurant   
  • essential travel phrases 
  • countries other than "India" and "America" (referring to the US),  
  • occupations other than "teacher" and "writer",    

Summary: 

For now, the Hindi course is an appetizer - it gives you a taste of the language (how the grammar works: nouns' gender, plurality, adjectives declination, some basic tenses, postpositions etc.), makes you want to learn more of it (at least for me), but it doesn't feed your hunger aka teach you enough vocabulary to get by, even in the most basic social situations. 

This course still needs some serious development - and I'm very much looking forward to the Hindi Tree V2 :) Dear Duo - please make it possible ;) Hindi is such a beautiful language, it would be a shame to leave it at the level it is... unfinished, leaving people hanging. Also, I hope the long-upcoming Arabic course will be more complete and developed when (if?) it will be released.   

मैं तुम्हारी अच्छी किस्मत की कामना करती हूँ! :)


PS. I may add a bit of words and sections later to suggest... but I think I've gone through most of the sections usually appearing in other courses by now. Also, please excuse my mistakes in Hindi! (Google Translate came to help me...)


Thank you everyone for your positive feedback! :) I've updated the words and sections a bit. I've also added a few links - for example culture-related, Indian cuisine and wildlife.
There's also this blog (http://www.shalusharma.com), written by an Indian lady, with info about culture, travel tips and more. ;)

September 9, 2018

25 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CarlosLM.

Ohhh, I was going to ask you for your favourite resources after finishing the course, but now I don't need to!! :-) And well, I think that to learn how to write devanagari are essential external resources, being my favourite one this tutor: http://enjoylearningsanskrit.com/sanskrit-alphabet-tutor, and to practice with sound tests and to learn some conjuncts this other one: https://www.hindibhasha.com/hindiscripttutor.htm. And at the moment as I've had notes, I only needed the Wiktionary as an external resource, but certainly I'll use your links when I get to the skills without notes! :-S

Congratulations for your successful completion of the course, and I hope that you can meet your future Hindi language goals!!! ;-)))


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KevanSF

Wow, great job! I hope the team has a chance to read and incorporate your helpful suggestions. It doesn't look like I'll get through the course anytime soon, but I'm sure glad it's there!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DiegoJaviUnlam

This is a wonderful review indeed. Speechless! Congratulations! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MyaRexa

I've updated the links and vocab/sections - I hope everyone following this thread will get this notif by email.
शुभकामनाएं ! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RanzoG

शाबाश!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kinpandun

Thank you so much for testing this course out! I think I'll wait to access it until it comes out of beta and is available on the app. Hopefully by then, they'll have incorporated your advice and fleshed out the course a little bit.

Thanks for your time,

Kin Pandun.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/koopr

What a wonderfully thoughtful and thorough review. Thank you for taking the time to leave your comments—and helpful links—for the community.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Maughanster_

Congratulations Mya! And thank you for the resources. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BrianLaRue

fantastic post, very informational, thanks for all the resources!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JulesF.

Very helpful to the team and learners! Thank you!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/smellyeye

Thank you for all the information!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dhawal.Vaghela

Great post! Thanks for taking the time to make this post.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bran_Oliver

woooow thanks for that


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidGrabi

I took a couple of semesters of Hindi at a local language school. The teacher had a strong background in linguistics, which I found extremely helpful. Since Hindi contains nasal tones and retroflex sounds not found in English, it might be helpful if there was a pronunciation guide. I'm imagining something with visuals that instruct the learner on where to place the tongue when making certain sounds, such as the dental "t" or retroflex "rDa."

Additionally, while this course does an excellent job teaching how to read the Devangari script, there is no instruction on how to write. It might also be useful to have some diagrams or videos that show where to begin and end pen strokes for each character. That way if anyone was motivated enough they could write their answers on paper to practice.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-lingua-nikhil-

WHAT IS MISSING IN THE COURSE:
daily phrases: hello, good morning/afternoon/day/evening/night, good luck, see you later, happy birthday, congratulations, nice to meet you etc.

In India, we generally use these english phrases for greetings, Hindi Translation of these looks like very pure hindi, and in casual talks, we never use them Mos


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KX3.

Good to know, thank you!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KX3.

Thank you for this! I hope to start the Hindi course when I've more time, and hope to finish it within 22 days like you too.

May I ask, if anyone is reading this, how many trees have you finished and how many all gold trees have you got?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AndrNordin1

You will find pretty much all that is missing in the Hindi for English speakers course in the English for Hindi speakers course :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MaliseMatnik

I totally agree most posts... The hindi course is really too short.. I enjoyed discovering this language.. it is indeed a beautiful one.. I hope to have more very soon... I continue to practice everyday.. So thank you Duo for such a great adventure..


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/seemsutopia

Roughly how many weeks are needed to complete Duolingo Hindi course?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Govindasam6

Easy but excellent method to teach a language. But very little. I want some more.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Spencer.Q

Thanks for all the info! Hoping that Duolingo develops Hindi a little more.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rajinold

Wow MyaRexa that's really, really impressive! You've inspired me to keep following my love of languages! (And youve made some really constructive points that I'm also discovering on the course now, hope the DL team listen!)

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