Why duolingo is better than language classes (En mi opinion)
This has happened to many people that I know :
Going to Spanish class all the way through grade school and high school, though emerging not having acquired the language.
I think that there are multiple problems with school language classes (disclaimer: nothing against language teachers, I am talking about the system, not the hardworking, dedicated teachers). One of the main issues is the pace. When learning a language, everybody goes at a different pace, so it's not fair to the kids left dragging behind in their class, or those who are exceeding and have to slow their pace. With duolingo, you can learn at whatever rate you want, and the limit is your determination. Duolingo is something that you can do on your own time and set your own goals for yourself. Finally, duo is fun, and enjoyable; and if you enjoy learning, you are more likely to succeed.
I think that language learning really needs looking at in the education world. I also think another key factor on why duolingo works better is that people tend to have a lot more motivation as they have their own goals to work towards rather than a state dictated one.
Estoy de acuerdo, Beardy123. Through my experience in school I have found the standards to be very low, and the only learning to slowly progress from simple phrases that the motivated students had mastered. There is a lot of pretending like students have the option to choose their own goals: "Let's write down our goal for the year!" But Duolingo is the only place with enough resources to meet this goal. In today's world, I'd choose Duolingo over Spanish class any day.
years ago in high school, i took Spanish class, however due to circumstances of my own lack of motivation and stupidity, I dropped out of school. Life has been good all these years, but the one thing I really missed out (this may sound silly) was not finishing my Spanish class. while I struggled with it, I still enjoyed it but never was able to finish. fast forward many years later and I found myself in a classroom in the local community college taking my first semester of Spanish, it was a success and I was back in the groove. did a second semester, again learning more and more and being able to move with the class. enter semester 3 and the replacement of the instructor to one who showed no enthusiasm whatsoever, which projected negativity to the students with full force. end college studies... 98 days ago I found Duolingo through a coworker, I started it and have not missed a day of learning since. since starting DL, I have also started working with other sites/apps, and I have gotten my Spanish books out from college, I also listen to Spanish learning podcasts while I am driving. I feel I am learning more than I ever did in school, I'm just hoping that eventually speaking with others comes into the picture. I can answer the questions, and translate the words. but still working on forming the right words when away from the books and apps... I know it will eventually come, and at this point with what i have learned, I have a lot of patience and plan to work hard..
I completely agree. As a student (I won't say which grade level), I feel that Duolingo has helped me so much more than any of my Spanish classes. I find it to be less of a problem with the pace (although this is an issue), but much more of a problem with the actual speaking. If a student says something actually wrong, they are not corrected, just given the extra points for participation.
I remember one time in a Spanish class, I said, "El pollo es en el horno" versus "El pollo está en el horno" and my Spanish teacher marked me down for a participation point. This is the problem with the world language education system in schools today - there's not enough time to correct everybody. And in younger grades, there are ALWAYS students that are not motivated to learn a language at all, and need the class slowed down for them, and can say incorrect things and still get points for it, because they just can't handle corrections.
My main issue with this system is the fact that the same things are repeated over and over again and they are acting like there is growth. I remember back in fifth grade, moving into sixth presented absolutely no change. Just another year of doing simple phrases. Supposedly, it's easier to learn a language when you are young, so I really hate how they act like our little kid brains can only handle so much. Same thing with the transition from sixth to seventh grade, seventh to eighth. That's FOUR YEARS and I had learned absolutely nothing from my classes. There is a big flaw in today's language education program, and it needs to be fixed.
As you said, Spanish, French, Latin, etc. teachers are amazing - and do a great job of teaching - but they are not being given enough to teach.
Yes, I just wish she had told me my mistake instead of just nodding. If I hadn't realized right afterward that I was incorrect, I would have assumed I was right.
The teacher wasn't punishing the mistake, the teacher rewarded Giovanni0604 for participating, without correcting them.
I was forced to learn french in school for 9 years! At the end of the ninth year it wasn't mandatory anymore so i dropped it, a year later i found duolingo and decided to try it out with a different language.
I used to hate learning a language in school because of the way it was taught to us but now that i have discovered this way of teaching myself a language i absolutely love it! I am even considering learning french again once i am more confident with my Spanish!
I learned that sometimes you don't hate learning things, you just hate how your learning it.
I failed in High School and gave up. Languages are not for me. Now I might know more than anyone who "passed" the class! Duo made it fun and very encompassing.
From my days in school you are not in the language class every day - and like anything - just touching base with this topic every day helps cement the process. I think some schools use duolingo in the classroom and if my children were taking language lessons now - I would say practice every day.
I had to take french lessons back in school and it was so bad i don't remember anything i learned it was about as boring and un efficient as you can imagine you just had to repeat the same practices over and over.
I always thought learning a language was Extremely hard and boring until i tried duolingo and watched some videos about how polyglots study and in the last 533 days i have learned more than i did in 15 years of school.
When I was 12 I took French at school during 2 years. I learned a lot and I still remember some things. I had not studied French again (except for a few lessons in Duolingo some years ago), but I've learned more English and gained more exposure to different Romance languages. Anyway, I restarted my lessons in Duolingo last week and I learned more in 2 days than in last 20 years. Thanks a lot!
I took three years of Spanish in high school, but didn't put in much effort. Not too surprisingly, I learned almost no Spanish. People in many countries learn more than one language. In America, most people that I know who grew up in this country only know English.
It's weird what bothers you as you grow older, but not knowing another language bothered me. DuoLingo has given me an another opportunity to learn Spanish, and this time I'll be putting in more effort.
Thanks to growing up as an Army Brat, I has the opportunity of immersion in other countries as well as classes in high school. It was the perfect opportunity for learning another language (French) and 40+ years later, I still dream in French. That said, most of my American classmates did not bother to learn the language. I am constantly amazed by how most Americans do not make an effort to learn a second language, and especially those who then get rude and abusive to people speaking a foreign language in public (usually Spanish these days). After all--Spanish was spoken long before English in California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas. In New Mexico, 30% of the population speaks Spanish, and the state has plenty of laws to protect people speaking Spanish, Navajo, and other native languages! SO awesome!
Duolingo... is a software... a tool
Class instruction is the same...
If you don't put the tools to use, what is the point saying one works better?
One's level of motivation to learn and willingness to take the steps necessary to do it constitute the most important factor(s) vis a vis results/outcomes.
If you go to class and have a helpful native-speaker as a teacher.... which is usually the case... then the class should be far more effective...
Let us not forget that duolingo is a great learning tool... but it provides no structure nor roadmap to guide the studying process from beginner.
In contrast, I am sure in a classroom context you will be told what things are important and why... ser/estar lo/le por/para hay + que tener + que ... and so on
Duolingo works up to level a2 max on european language reference scale...
That is great... Going from knowing nothing to translating sentences at a rudimentary level is big progress in itself. But it is not enough for the long haul... duolingo alone is a great foundation in vocab and basic sentence structures... beyond that... it is just out of its place for what it's designed to do.
True, duo alone won't get you perfectly fluent. But it is an extremely effective foundation.
In some YouTube video (the name of which I forget) a Duolingo user gave this analogy:
(I'm obviously paraphrasing) If you are trapped in a dark cave, you need a flashlight to get out (by flashlight he meant a solid foundation; Duolingo). Without the flashlight, it will be extremely difficult to get out of the cave, because you can't see anything; though the flashlight alone will not get you out, you will need other tools to break through the rocks and get out.
Hopefully I phrased that correctly.
You may not learn to perfection, but duo can get you very far (I feel that it has so far done that much for me). Though we also must remember that no one book, or app, or cite can lead you to absolute fluency. But that's not to say that they don't serve a great purpose.
I agree strongly with you. I'm in Spanish 2 at the moment. My teacher makes us watch videos and do warmups that we don't even understand. He has this peso extra credit thing and it's the only way to do good in class because none of us understand anything. Part of the extra credit was to do Duolingo every week. When I started, it seemed really fun. Now, it still is really fun and it teaches me way more than my teacher even does. In class, its difficult to learn from your mistakes because my teacher just moves onto the next unit after. But in Duolingo, you can keep repeating things over and over again and it helps you a lot. Using Duolingo has helped me so much and I actually understand what me teacher is saying when he speaks to us now.
I'm also in Spanish 2. I have been using duo since the beginning, though just for fun, and to get a head start. Wow, has it made a difference. An overwhelming majority of what I have learned has come from duo (unsurprisingly). It has paid off because, like you, I can understand what my teachers saying.
I personally do find self-study better than school due to independence in being able to study further into something and pace however you like. I've learned way more! Keep in mind that this comes from someone who actually does well and learns in school.
Hellotalk + any language course=perfection. Ive actually met people who did better languages in school but i think it would be a great idea make changes any ways. My idea would be to get rid of the grade system, have class room activities be based off of language immersion like reading,movies and so on. Every day there should packets with grammar and vocab. They should also introduce some computer games to help teach the target language. That's my idea of a school course. If i said that in front of a principle or whatever, i don't think they'd appreciate some my ideas lol.
In class you have to go at the pace of the class here go as slow as you want or fast as you want no rush.
Why not blame the teachers? Someone paid them for years and you and probably most of the students didnt learn anything. They participated in a system that didnt worked yet they were paid everyday. Little kids are right, school is prison.
I can see and understand your frustration, though I wouldn't go that far. So far, the teachers that I have had for Spanish have all been enthusiastic people who care about their students, enjoy what they are doing, and teach Spanish to the best of their ability within a flawed system. Instead of blaming the teachers, I will be hoping that they continue to teach. They are trying their hardest (I know mine were), and for me, they made the classes enjoyable, even if we are progressing very slowly (which, again, isn't their fault; it's the system). :)