"I ate my hat."
Translation:Saya memakan topi saya.
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donny309620,
The difference between "makan" and "memakan" is that: (1) "makan" may be followed by an object and may not be. Whilst, (2) "memakan" must be followed by an object.
For example:
Saya makan.
Saya makan topi itu.
Saya memakan topi itu.
We cannot say, "saya memakan".
So, your answer should be correct if you use "makan" or " memakan" for the sentence above.
I read that memakan can sound more formal, kind of like how saya is more formal. "Aku makan topiku" is likely correct as well.
If you use Saya you can't use "ku" as a suffix. "Aku memakan topiku" is correct but if you start with saya only "Saya memakan topi saya" is correct.
Serfive Stijn47450:
We can use "saya memakan topiku" for informal or oral, and perhaps "sastra".
Please read my comment for c3trash as this question is not easy.
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Actually it stems from the expression "..I'll eat my hat". It is an expression meaning you believe that something will never occur. For example, "If Trump becomes modest, I'll eat my hat."
So I assume the person overstated his confidence, and ultimately had to eat his hat.
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Can I mix Saya with the -ku possessive suffix? Saya memakan topiku? Is there a special suffix for saya? I assume the -ku comes from aku.
c3trash:
Your question is difficult to be answered here.
The Formal form is "Saya memakan topi saya". If we use "Aku" or -ku (which is included as "informal"), we will mix between both Formal and Informal forms. However, oftentimes the course uses the Informal form at some lessons, such as "aku", "... pesan makanan", etc. Perhaps, only the Course contributors/moderators could explain this issue: "saya memakan topiku" or "aku memakan topi saya" (if our answer is marked wrong) as the Course itself seems mixing Informal and Formal. I have also found the similar issue in "bahasa Inggris" (English for Indonesian) Course.
To be noted that Indonesian has (1) "ragam formal" and "ragam informal", (2) "ragam lisan" and "ragam tulis", (3) "ragam ilmiah" and "ragam sastra". Hence, if we say, "saya memakan topiku", it is correct in its Informal form or "ragam lisan" (or maybe "ragam sastra").
About "suffix for saya", there is no special suffix for "saya".
- Care to explain what all those "ragam-ragam" are? 2. So how does it sound to you, the native?
@All, if you have read my comment for c3trash, please give me some feedbacks if any. I accept any input. Thanks. :))
Why memakan not makan, which had been accepted until this exercise? The trouble with such unexplained differences - and there seem to be quite a few - is that after a certain point the student stops trying to work out a translation and instead plays “guess what teacher wants”
Gill714966: We use "memakan" only for the unusual object. We know that people rarely (or never) eat the hat. But, you may also use "makan" here as "makan" is applied for both common objects and not.
For example:
Saya makan nasi.
Saya makan topi.
Saya memakan topi.
(Also, please read my comment above for donny309620.)
Because you need to be consistent with "saya" or "aku". "Saya memekan topi saya" or "Aku memekan topiku"
Because if you get it wrong you could eat somebody else's hat and cause offence!
Bill678285:
"... topiku" should be correct for informal and oral.
"... topi saya" is for formal and writing variants. So, if we strict to formal, "topiku" will be incorrect.
However, I see this course combining both formal and informal.
So, some contributors should explain this matter, why "topiku" is incorrect here. There is no sign that we should use formal at this lesson. We see that, in another lesson they say, "... pesan makanan" or something like that, which is informal.
(Also, please read my comment for c3trash).
I think it’s because aku is informal, saya is formal and they don’t mix. If that’s the reason I’d expect “Aku memakan topiku” to work. I could very well be wrong though, I’m no expert.
jo7705 Gill714966:
Aku memakan topi saya is correct for informal or oral (and perhaps "sastra").
Please read my comment above for c3trash.
Nb: Maybe, I would update that comment.
"Terima kasih" is the Standard Form (Bentuk Baku) because "terima kasih" consists of two words, ie. terima and kasih. Whilst, "terimakasih", "trims", "makasih", "thx", etc., are informal.
I'm so sorry for my mistake (or my typo), I have edited it. Previously, I wrote "terimakasih" :)
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It's an English expression so even though it is probably not something an Indonesian would say it is still a realistic sentence. Duo also likes to give "nonsense" sentences so you will remember them better.
Holy Molly, when will Duolingo stop drinking too much alcohol to type the idiotic quotes as this?
Topiku not accepted, but even before used saya, it can be used!!! Duolingo fails... again!
"Saya memakan topi aku" is wrong?! Why can't i use different personal pronouns?
