They do not mean at all the same thing. "It boils down to this" means "this is the summary of the situation" followed by said summary, while "it has come to this" means "because of past events, we are now in this situation" and the situation is probably understood.
Everytime I get a sentence like this, where an idiom or very colloquial phrase is used to introduce a new word I report it and complain about using sentences like this to use new words. So far no reply from the DL German staff, but hopefully if enough people complain they'll tweak the lessons.
It's a really strange way to introduce a new word.
I think idiomatic phrases should come with their literal translation as well. It would make it much easier to understand the regular usage of the words that form them, and it would help to shed some light on the culture in which they live. Trying to teach them like single blocks that translate to completely unrelated blocks in another language doesn't make much sense.
I agree. Both together would be useful. Either the literal words alone or the idiom alone is not very helpful. With both the individual words and also the entire phrase, students could probably make the connection between the words and the phrase AND remember the idiom better.
Hi, Myra. I love idiomatic phrases - when I understand WHY they mean what they mean. Perhaps a separate section for idioms like this, where there is extra time/space to give more details on meaning. If not, this is just a list of words put together in a way I don't really understand, and will struggle to remember.
I know some of the really clever students think frustration helps people to learn. I've spent a lot of time teaching - that is not my experience at all. Anything you can do to help will be appreciated.
This might help you:
Better hints won't really help. We're instead learning the entire idiom as if it was one word. I just don't fell it has its place here to introduce words, since we just learn the phrase, not the word. The "Idioms" bonus skill is a good example of how clumsy the Duo format is for teaching this, so play to the format's strengths -- and let the learners learn the idioms from outside sources because the one's who really want to speak the language know Duo alone won't cut it anyway.
First the separable verb hinauslaufen; it means literally "to run out" and can be translated literally, but it can also mean the same as is the English "to come down to, to come out to; to result in/with , to end up with".
The literal translation:
- er läuft auf die Straße hinaus = he runs out to the street.
The idiomatic use:
- diese Methode läuft aufs Chaos hinaus = this method will end up with chaos.
Now our full phrase "läuft es darauf hinaus?":
- läuft es ... hinaus? = does it come out to .....? ;
- darauf = onto; onto it.
Finally the full literal translation: does it come out onto it?
https://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/hinauslaufen+auf.html» hinauslaufen | auf
to result in something. to boil down to sth. [fig.]
to amount to, to add up to, to be equivalent to, to be tantamount to, to come to [amount to]
auf nichts hinauslaufen to amount to nothing
auf das Gleiche hinauslaufen to amount to the same thing
auf ein Verbrechen hinauslaufen to amount to a crime
auf ein Vergehen hinauslaufen to amount to an offense
Hi, Betty. Have you ever seen a couple have one strange, silly fight after another - then, eventually, finally, the man* says he's not happy and he's leaving? The woman goes 'Ooooooh!' She gets it. What it all boils down to - he's not happy, he's leaving. Everything else was just noise. This is the 'bottom line', 'what it all comes down to'. Take away everything irrelevant, and you are left with the most important, the main message - what it all boils down to.
When we did chemistry at school, sometimes we heated liquids, boiled off the water (or whatever) to see what was left behind. The stuff left in the test tube is LITERALLY 'what it all boils down to'. The important stuff, the main message.
Any help? :)
[*could be the woman, I suppose ... :) ]
No, it doesn't mean that. As an example of how it might be used (and one of the few times it is) imagine if it were the final penalty in a shoot-out, or the last play in an American football game, where the result could be changed by the penalty/play. Everything depends on the next action - "it all boils down to this".
Not at all. Lots of idioms are rather abstract. If you learn with a view to the communicative/conversational level, I really can't see how focusing too much on the idioms helps with learning a new foreign language despite them being occasionally lubricant; I have to say before a learner can really sort out the da- adverbs, learning sentences like this can sometimes just be very upset.
There are patterns that can help.
da + preposition = “preposition es/das”
zu = “zu es/das”
auf = “auf es/das”
um = “um es/das”
her add direction to some prepositions.
Hin adds the meaning towards;
her adds the meaning away from.
These patterns can be hard to remember and use, especially because prepositions often don't line up across languages. But they should make it so you don't have to memorize every word.