https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Katrina245662

Crowns?

Is it suggested to go through the entire tree before working on second crowns? Or should I work on getting multiple crowns on each lesson before moving on?

October 31, 2018

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hughcparker

Revision only works if it's spread out over time. If you get a skill all the way to level five in a couple of days, you'll have forgotten more than half of it by the end of the month.

The best way to time your revision is with a spaced repetition approach. This is something of a good news / bad news scenario:

  • Good news: Duolingo records and calculates a "strength" value for each word you study, so as to calculate when it'll be most effective to revisit a skill.
  • Bad news: For some insane reason, Duolingo has chosen to stop displaying this information.
  • Good news: Someone else has made a website to display that information: duome.eu. Here's your page:https://duome.eu/Katrina245662/progress.

If you keep all of the skills gold, you'll find it works really well. Sometimes that means you don't make any progress through the tree for a while - that's fine.

Duolingo takes account of how long it takes you to answer the question, and it takes account of whether or not you "peek" - whether or not you hold the mouse over a word to see what it means. When you can answer the questions quickly and without peeking, the words will decay more slowly.

After you've strengthened the skills a few times, they'll start decaying more slowly, and then you'll be able to get further through the tree.

October 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SarahBurt8

It's to your own discretion, really. I first started by plowing through each subject, with the intent on getting through the tree as fast as possible.

I am finding, however, that I really need that confidence in the basics as I move further into more difficult material. The learning material is cumulative as you progress through the tree.

Currently my tactic is doing one or two parts of various lessons in the older material as a refresher, then doing a couple parts of whatever new lesson I haven't finished.

I have been using this https://www.duome.eu/insertyourusernamehere/progress to track what lessons to re-build my strength in.

In the end it can be whatever method you feel is helping you learn best. If you are retaining a fair amount of the previous lessons, then moving through the entire tree before working on second crowns might be the way to go for you.

October 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RooyAguirre

It depends on YOU.

Personally, I'd rather just complete a BIG part of the tree, then return to the start to get some crowns, and then just keep on going with it. That's what I do with Portuguese. I don't do any new skills 'til I finish all the crowns on the first skills of the language.

It's a very practical way to see it. Hope this answer helps you in your decision! Veel Geluk!

October 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pv1204
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Most say it's personal choice. I prefer to raise each skill one level thru the tree, ie, complete tree to level one then complete tree to level 2, etc. This gives me an opportunity to review words, phrases, etc that I may have forgotten. Good luck! Happy learning!

October 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Abykale

There isn't an official recommendation yet; Duolingo is going to analyze what users do to determine what approach is most effective.

Personally, I don't find the exercises at the low levels challenging enough to feel like I've got a good enough grasp of the skills to move on too much farther in the tree. Plus in order to remember things long-term I have to go back and practice them more than just the one day.

So what I do every day: Start with the skills highest on the tree and bring them each up one Crown Level. So if a skill is Level 4 I'll bring it up to Level 5, but if it's Level 3 I'll bring it up to Level 4 and then stop until the next day.

I continue doing this for the rest of the skills I have in progress, going in order from top to bottom. Sometimes depending on time and the state of my tree, I may not get to all of them that day. Other times I might finish them all and be ready to start some new ones. Again it depends on how much time and motivation I have that day. Also, if I'm finding something challenging, I might not try to complete a full level in a day, but spread it out over several. For whatever reason I find the first couple of levels are always the hardest, even though they have fewer lessons and award way less xp, and by the time I'm level 4 testing out is super easy and there's no way I'd slog through the individual lessons.

Then the next day I start the same process again. So I always have multiple skills going at the same time, at various levels, but am steadily making progress both at unlocking new ones and at finishing out the old ones at the highest crown level.

October 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/veyseldoganme

In the old website, making them gold, then proceeding was better if you ask me. But in this interface, I would, and did, make the whole tree level 1 and then all level 5.

For instance my whole tree is level 1 now, except the 2 basics course. They are level 5. I just take the test and do less then 4 errors. That's the way you get the most I suppose.

October 31, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Thomas.Heiss

Hi Katrina,

you can try a MIXED approach: Either the Crown L1-L3 pyramid system plus or vs regulary re-strengthen earlier (L1) skills.

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29304553/HOWTO-Different-ways-for-spaced-repetition-with-skill-strength-viewer-user-script-and-extension

It will depend very much if you use 3rd party flashcard applications with a stronger spaced repetition (SR) algorithm like Memrise, AnkiSRS, SuperMemo, etc. and if you can practice L1 EN -> L2 target language translations with RECALLING tests (which Duolingo won't allow you to do on the earlier crown levels in the forward tree from English).

To hammar vocabulary successfully into your head and see those words more often, it is a good thing to always try to catch-up with the backlog queue(s) of those SR applications.

If you learn new words, Memrise e.g has additional short-term 4h + 12h + 1day review intervals: https://memrise-users.fandom.com/wiki/Memrise_Spaced_Repetition_Intervals

Good luck!

April 2, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/chrisl4

I find I am not confident with my knowledge of the material until Level 2 or 3. Then I find it boring finishing level 3 and 4, sometimes being able to test out of those levels.

After reading many articles about this subject, which I didn't know existed until today, I will trying getting through level two on a few skills at a time and going back to finish level 3 and 4. I will let you know how that works for me.

Good luck!

September 15, 2019
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