https://www.duolingo.com/Glavisto

Tips for learning Devanagari?

I’m finding it more difficult to learn than most foreign writing systems so I was wondering if there’s something I’m missing? Maybe a pattern or anything?

2 months ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/RedHindi
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Use word association. For example ल looks like a heart and produces an "L" sound. Therefore ल=L for love. Create your own word picture association for each letter.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Glavisto

Thanks! That’s a really good idea.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/myselfandi

What I find makes learning Devanagari with Duolingo very difficult is, that you just click or tap an symbols or already written words. That is the worst way to learn a writing system from a didactic standpoint. It makes it unnecessarily difficult to internalize the relationship between sounds and symbols or their combinations.

It would be much better to let learners type the words with an on-screen keyboard or to provide help on how to set different keyboards on mobile devices. At least on my phone when learning Italian with Duolingo, the phone switched between the Italian an English keyboards seemlessly (in that case not so good, because it also activated spellcheck, which sort of defeats the point when learning a language).

Better yet, would be to use handwriting recognition and also teach the traditional order/way to write Devanagari. This would make the relation between the vowel and consonant parts as well as consonant conjunctions much clearer and make it easier for us as learners.

In conclusion I would suggest to use Duolingo to learn Hindi phonetically and use a different service or app to learn Devanagari at the moment until Duolingo maybe "forces" you to use and hone your Devanagari skills while also learning the words.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RedHindi
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Handwriting is by far the best way to learn Devanagari.

However, I do not agree that Duolingo should use phonetic romanization of Hindi. I have met a few people who learned Hindi through romanization and their pronunciation is terrible to the point of not being understood. In my opinion, Devanagari is an essential part of learning Hindi as an adult.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Gislenius
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There are a few patterns. The letters can be grouped in several different ways. First, the official way with the consonant families (such as प फ ब भ म).

But there is an alternate way of grouping them based only on how they look like. For example

व ब or

ष प फ क or

न म भ ग or

थ श or

य ख र स or

घ ध.

This greatly helped me organizing them in my mind and remembering the general patterns.

2 months ago

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2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Glavisto

Thank you very much.

2 months ago

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I used memrise for devanagari in a Marathi course. it helped me to start out learning the individual letters and then implement them by reading vocab words and hearing them pronounced. here's a link to just devanagari: https://www.memrise.com/course/45972/devanagari-script/ and heres one for vocab for practicing reading: https://www.memrise.com/course/197/basic-hindi/1/

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ElizabethS438904

I didn't get through the alphabet, so the only advice I have is to write down the pronunciations of each letter in a way that you understand. (In my opinion, Hindi is harder than Japanese!)

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/myselfandi

I don't know about Japanese but once you understand its system, Devanagari's basics are not so complicated. The hint to write down the Devanagary letters on paper by Elizabeth is a good one. Forcing your brain to use different inputs/outputs at the same time increases the learning speed. Best even say out aloud what you write while you write it and write different combinations of consonants and vowels.

What I found could be explained more clearly in the hints and instructions for the lessons, was, that Devanagari is a syllabic writing system in which every consonant automatically has a vowel attached to it. This standard vowel is a short "a". (Similar to English, where the standard vowel added to consonants, when reciting the alphabet generally is a (long) "e" as in (to) be: (A), Be, Ce, De, (E), eF,... - Hindi: क = ka, व = va). Generally, the last implied "a" in a word is not pronounced, e.g. राज = "Rāj" and not "Rāja".

Different strokes are added to consonant symbols to represent other vowels than "a": के = ke, कू = kū (long u), की = kī (long i), कि = ki. What makes reading Devanagari difficult sometimes, is that the diacritic symbols like for "i" (कि) can stand before the consonant while others are placed above, below or after the consonant in a word.

Also, vowels when written at the beginning of a word or not in relation to a consonant have their own different symbols. (Duolingos first Hindi lesson). I find it is easiest to learn the vowel signs together with the matching diacritic symbol: e.g. इ and ि for "i".

The letter "R" is a special case as a joined consonant where one consonant directly follows or stands before another (as they do in the English words "hard" or "train"). There Devanagary really does become somewhat complicated. But so far I have not come across such words and I guess Duolingo in this case does thankfully increase the complexity step by step.

As for me,... I had started learning Devanagari before, forgot most of it and now it's coming back slowly.

2 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Glavisto

Thanks!

2 months ago

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