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Die Kinder/die Kinder

I'm having trouble in getting Duolingo to accept either Die Kinder or die Kinder for 'the children'. It keeps telling me I'm using the wrong word. Has anyone any idea what I'm doing wrong?

November 11, 2018

15 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Heike333145

"The children" is not always translated as "die Kinder". "Die Kinder" is only correct in the nominative and accusative case.

Die Kinder essen. (The children eat). Here, "die Kinder" is the subject of the sentence, therefore: nominative.

Ich sehe die Kinder. (I see the children.) Here, "die Kinder" is in the accusative case.

But:

Ich gebe den Kindern Brot. (I give bread to the children). Here, it is the dative case.

Das ist das Haus der Kinder. (This is the house of the children). Here, it is genitive case.

Therefore, the decision whether "die Kinder" is correct can only be made in the context of a complete sentence.

November 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RichardAll840569

Thanks very much. Unfortunately, the question reads: Write “the children” in German. There is no complete sentence! So there's no indication that it's the dative that's required. There's been no mention of anything other than der, die, das. I'm only on a very basic level-Basic 2. I think the problem lies somewhere else. It's a great shame as I was getting on really well with the course. Rather annoyingly, I can't get the skip button to work in order to jump this particular question. But I'm very grateful to you for replying and when I reach the giddy heights of Dative and perhaps Ablative then I'll remember your advice.

November 11, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/az_p
Mod

    Have you taken a screenshot of the problem? If so, could you post it here?

    November 11, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RichardAll840569

    Again thanks for being so patient! It's probably all my fault, but here is the URL of the screenshot. https://imgur.com/gallery/CXQYSEc

    November 11, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/duotedm

    I think you have "die" twice there, once for the selected "die" and then again in the text line. Once you have "die" in green above, put only "Kinder" in the box. You effectively have "die die Kinder"

    November 11, 2018

    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/az_p
    Mod

      This seems to be the problem! I tested these sentences to confirm, and the way it works is that you choose the correct article and then type the noun. If you don't select an article but just type "die Kinder" it's also marked correct, but selecting an article and typing it counts twice.

      November 12, 2018

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RichardAll840569

      I've done a screenshot but can't see a way of posting it. I've got the same problem with: Write “the children” in German. I enter the correct answer-it's confirmed when I check it, but it tells me I've used the wrong word.

      November 11, 2018

      https://www.duolingo.com/profile/az_p
      Mod

        Go to www.imgur.com/upload, upload the photo and post the link.

        November 11, 2018

        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RichardAll840569

        Has my screenshot come through?

        November 11, 2018

        https://www.duolingo.com/profile/az_p
        Mod

          I can't see that you pasted the link anywhere in your last comment. Imgur is not part of Duolingo - it hosts millions of images and you need to provide me with the address of your image.

          November 11, 2018

          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marc887701

          Luckily, there is no Ablativ to learn for German chuckles Only Nominativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Akkusativ :)

          November 13, 2018

          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/beagoodone

          No difference of meaning between Upper case "Die kinder" and lower case"die kinder", but it is also that when the word is at the very beginning of a sentence, it takes upper class that is all. I understand it right or misunderstand? :)

          November 11, 2018

          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marc887701

          Please remember that nouns are capitalized in German so kinder would be wrong one way or another -- it would have to be Die/die Kinder :)

          November 13, 2018

          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RichardAll840569

          Sorry to appear to be so belated in getting back to you, I've been away all day. But I am so grateful to you who took the time to tell me what I was doing wrong. I thought it had to be me not the prog. And also thanks to anyone else who helped. Really loving this learning.

          November 12, 2018

          https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RichardAll840569

          Thank you, Marc 887701. I didn't realise that I'd failed to capitalise in my post. It must be a symptom of the frustration I was feeling as I do make every effort to capitalise nouns when doing the exercises. And also for telling me that there's no Ablativ! There's quite enough without inventing stuff!

          November 14, 2018
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