https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

How do I stop the chinese characters?

I don't want to learn Chinese reading or writing right now, just how to speak it. My need for being able to write "You are happy and I am happy" is lower than zero. Can change settings and not learn characters?

November 13, 2018

21 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EpicRuler1414

You you can’t remove the characters. That is the way the course is designed.

And learning how to speak a language without reading is very difficult anyway, especially a tonal language.

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MishaLavrov

Regarding your second point - one could imagine a language course in which you read and write sentences like "Wǒ hěn gāoxìng" instead of "我很高兴", and never learn what the characters look like.

This would work, it just isn't the course that Duolingo offers.

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/1083531311

it is easier to learn chinese with the characters than without them.I learned the meaning of more than 1500 characters without ever having spoken a single chinese sentence and without having access to the internet.now I m learning the rest and duolinguo is doing a good job in teaching me chinese grammar.in the beginning it was difficult for me to learn the chinese characters but it is getting easier if you go on practicing them every day.

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

I just think the characters I am learning are useless. I will not need to write "I am happy you are happy" at all on my next trip there.

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MadManBird

I honestly would just use Hello Chinese then. It doesn't have too many character exercises and focuses on the speaking aspect of it.

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

I have Hello Chinese, FluentU, doulingo, and a Chinese wife :) I'm exploring all options.

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MadManBird

It is a very smart choice lol

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DebbieBail8

I think it's better to learn the characters with the spoken words, unless you never want to learn any characters. I am pretty fluent, and am now having to go back through it all again to learn the reading and typing of characters. I have regrets. Duolingo is better for reading and listening, as there is absolutely no speaking unless you just repeat.

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/250000000

Well, I'ts really hard to learn how to speak a language without knowing the characters because if you can't read how can you speak? Of course, I know it's possible but I can't think up a way since I'm probably the youngest person inside this disscusion

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/250000000

I would prefer not to reveal my age but I may say that I am in my pre-teens and judging from the avatars I can tell that most of you are most likely adults

November 13, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

Don't worry about your age, I want knowledge. To address your point. I speak Japanese but can't read or write a word. I just think the words I am learning in the lessons now are worthless. Let me learn useful words later.

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DebbieBail8

We all learn to speak our native language at least 4 years before we start learning how to write it, so it is possible, but adult learners need to learn them simultaneously I think.

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossWS

Just some feedback, a lot of people go into Chinese with the mindset that I don't need characters as they just want to speak a bit (many of my friends and colleagues included), all subsequently gave up the language within their first year in China. Just want to impart a bit of my experience if you have a minute.

The characters are a great tool for grounding your Chinese knowledge, think of the memory like tree roots, just one root and the tree falls over easily. The more roots (and a bit more effort) the longer the thing stays, Characters are a great way to build association around the word so that this happens.

Secondly, the good learning materials quickly dry out without characters, nearly everything you'll find written in pinyin will be very elementary. I'd recommend using Skritter (to build the character knowledge) and Duolingo for grammar etc,

Hope this proves useful!

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossWS

Oh and find an online pinyin table and drill your pronunciation (doing sounds like "ge ke ne le" etc.!) if you can find a Chinese friend to help you with this it will be a quick improvement on your pronunciation. Chinese is a tonal language and the nuance between some sounds takes real practice, get it slightly wrong and you'll simply not be understood despite being close).

Hope these posts serve as a good quick guide to starting the language

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

My wife is Chinese so that isn't a problem, I just don't want her job to be teaching me her language.

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LizC210211

You need to get the BBC Talk Mandarin Chinese book and CD pack. It does exactly what you want. I have it and it is very useful as it only uses pinyin to teach all vocabulary.

November 14, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

It is even more amusing when my Chinese wife tells me that the chinese lessons are worded incorrectly.

November 15, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LittleChris27

Ni Kai xin wo jiu kai xin 你开心我就开心

November 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RossChrist8

I have quit using duolingo for now. I may return to it one day but the frustration it is giving me is too much to handle. It is teaching things I do not need when I am in China and it frustrates me to be learning how to write "I am happy when you are happy" before I can speak the most simple of introductions. When I was in China I needed to be able to say "Please take me to my hotel" I have no need to read or write ANYTHING. I am frustrated that I can't just skip those parts of the exercises because I know for a fact that I don't need them. I am fluent in speaking Japanese and can't read or write a word of it. I will come back to duolingo when I have time to waste but I am returning to China soon and need to learn essentials.

November 29, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/australsk

I really understand your frustration. Perhaps you can look at Domino Chinese. Their stuff seems somewhat more relevant, but if you need to fast-track your learning I'm not sure of an online source that could help. You may have to work out of a book or something.

Best of luck!

December 1, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/GeorgeOrma

I'm exactly in the same boat as you. I've learned Chinese over the past 3 years without learning a single Chinese character. Despite that, I can communicate with my in-laws just fine and I don't like the fact that this app doesn't allow to disable chinese characters. I'm currently using Busuu (very nice software) to avoid that, although in order to get the full pinyin experience you'd have to use the browser instead

July 14, 2019
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