https://www.duolingo.com/FredrikVC

French Trees Stats?

As I watch the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, I find a post that says there's now yet one more French tree. (https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29740054). It lists all the stats of the new tree (V5). I also know the stats for the tree I'm on (V2). But after trying to find the stats for V3 & V4, I have to admit failure. (Perhaps it's hunger as the turkey is cooked.)

What are the stats (crowns, skills, lessons, lexemes, etc.) for all of the French trees?

Does anyone know what the stats for the old version of the French tree that preceded the current V2 (V1?)? When was that version killed off? Were there any even earlier versions of the French tree?

11/22/2018, 4:38:54 PM

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https://www.duolingo.com/Sitesurf
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Well, if I remember well, the oldest French tree still currently available to some users is labelled Tree2. It was not the 2nd version since the first was Tree0 (2012). It was actually V3.1 (@2015?), therefore the 5th version, with 78 skills

The last Tree version written by the volunteer team was launched in March this year. It is commonly called Tree3 (and the 6th version of the French course), with 93 skills.

The latest two French trees produced by Duolingo staff and currently in A/B test are labelled Tree8 (119 skills) and Tree12 (156 skills) respectively.

11/23/2018, 5:05:23 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Saccard
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This is really helpful. Thank you! I finished the 2015 78 skill tree last year. Do I need to delete all of my progress to get one of the newer trees?

11/26/2018, 4:44:22 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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@Saccard

Quote: Do I need to DELETE all of my progress to get one of the newer trees?

No, don't do that!

Resetting your language / tree progress won't get you any NEWER A/B tree version!!!

A/B tests are tied to your user account!
So actually you would have to get a NEW user account to change your A/B experiment settings.

11/27/2018, 2:31:11 AM

https://www.duolingo.com/CommeuneTexane

No need to delete your current account if you wish to keep it. You can create a new account, though you might have to use a different email to verify it.

11/27/2018, 1:15:04 AM

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https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29069435/French-Trees-Explained

(My) Contributor tree3 (V6): https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/26726755/The-new-French-tree-is-here-under-A-B-test

  • Skills: 96+3
  • Lessons: 402+9
  • Crowns: 483
  • Checkpoints: 4
  • Lexemes: 2296
  • Duolingo Lexemes ids: 2811+55

Staff tree8 has 119 skills: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/28295420/Newer-French-Tree

  • Skills: 119+3 (data from users with three bonus skills)
  • Lessons: 598+9
  • Crowns: 597
  • Checkpoints: ?
  • Lexemes: 2726 (3 bonus), 2712 (2 bonus)
  • Duolingo lexemes ids: 3816+55 (3 bonus skills)

Newest EN->FR A/B tree12: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29740054

  • Skills: 156+2
  • Lessons: 741+6
  • Crowns: 782
  • Checkpoints: 7
  • Duolingo "Lexemes ids": 4906+39

  • (Real) Lexemes: unknown
    (the shown "1913 words" number in Callie's Duome.eu page is the wrong lexemes number from an older tree as users have to firstly complete this new tree and then poll the "learned lexemes" from the "vocabulary API")

UPDATE 11/28/2018: Corrected tree version numbers according to Sitesurf

11/22/2018, 6:19:27 PM

https://www.duolingo.com/FredrikVC

Thanks. Know anything about pre-V2?

11/22/2018, 6:38:11 PM

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Quote D3XT3RY0NuT: How many lessons did Tree 1 have?

Quote CommeuneTexane: Tree 1 is a bit of a misnomer because there were several.

Source: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29069435$comment_id=29071785

11/23/2018, 8:37:59 AM

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Very confusing! IMO however, I plod along and hope I am making progress.

11/25/2018, 2:33:32 AM

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Quote CommeuneTexane: The newest version, Tree12 (156 skills), was released to new users only on November 20th.
It is currently undergoing A/B testing. I will also edit my post to reflect the staff's terminology for the trees, Tree8/Tree12.

Source: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/29069435$comment_id=29771012

Side note about catching new French trees in private browsing windows (no activity tracking)

Every time I tried to catch tree12 with 156 skills (3-4 times) to take a quick look on "grammar skills" in a private browser window (with no activity tracking) I actually got the 119 skill tree8 version.

My version had seven parts labels Part 1-7 separated by a visual parting line....this is indeed pretty unusual for a Duolingo tree (I know the EN->Spanish staff tree layout).
There were seven checkpoints where there also was a last final checkpoint at the end.
I remembered that a user posted in another thread before that there actually might be two versions of the 119 skill tree8?!
The Pearson? version might have those labeled grouping parts, the normal tree (=staff?) version doesn't have them!?
The user was also missing some skills from tree3 in this 1-7 parts tree which the other tree staff A/B version had (I still go with the saying that both new staff trees are not 1:1 clones of tree3 and do not provide all grammar skills, they don't just add new skills, but restructure the skill layout!)

Even a router reboot / new Internet IP lease (from my provider) did not help....I still got the 119 skill tree version every time I tried and not a second (normal) skill layout.
Finally I got fed up with that after 4-5 tries and changed the hardening level in Firefox for the activity protection from normal to the highest.
Has worked. Finally I got the newest tree in my private browsing window :)

11/28/2018, 9:17:18 AM
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