https://www.duolingo.com/JulesF.

Latin coursed has entered the incubator!

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Salve!
How was your last night? Mine was great. It seems like we got a little present from Duo. The first Ancient language on Duo has entered the incubator:
https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/la/en/status

I have already learned some Latin in school, and I noticed it's extraordinary helpful when learning other languages. Also, it is very interesting and fun to explore the etymology of words on your own. Not to mention that the European humanist Desiderius Erasmus once said:

"The font of all knowledge in the world lies with the Ancient Greeks and Romans."

Of course, when studying medicine, this is also very handy.

Gratias ago vobis, Duo!

1 week ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/merkavar

probably so people will stop asking for it to be added

now we will get 15 posts a day asking about its lack of progress

:D

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas_Wesley
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Well... you're not wrong! hahaha... For the sake of variety, however, I will limit my complaints to the lack of either attic or Koine Greek, rather than the lack of progress in Latin.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_DragonFyre_

At least it's not so bad with Arabic. Only 12 posts a day. :D

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JulesF.
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You are a quick thinker

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Esen.
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LOL.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ESK_22

Are you level 3 in all available languages?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Esen.
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Except for Klingon.

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HappyToday2
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very interesting...I did not see the Guarani (Jopara) language? Did duolingo remove it or something? Just curious

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/iron_bun
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It's from Spanish so go to "Add a new Language", say you can speak Spanish and it will show up.

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chineseblossom22
5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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I would learn Latin on Duolingo. Zero contributors, though?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/davidcwalls
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They must still be working on digging up native speakers ;-)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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There are no native speakers on the Esperanto team, but for what it's worth, I actually knew a native Latin speaker once. Well, I corresponded extensively with her mother. She'd be 19 or so now. There really is an active "Living Latin" community.

Yes, I understand that your comment was a joke.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/davidcwalls
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In what context was she a native Latin speaker? I had no idea there were any.

It doesn't really rise to the level of a joke, it's just a pun. After all, I do think they are still in the process of choosing contributors.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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There are native speakers of Latin in the same way there are for Esperanto, the children of fluent speakers. I met one about fifteen years ago. She's about 20 now. And it's not the same one that Salivanto is talking about ;).

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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The native speaker I met was the daughter of two Latin professors. They spoke Latin at the breakfast table each morning. When she began talking they were surprised to find out the Latin stuck. At first she only spoke it in the kitchen. Her brain was able to separate it from English :). They never pushed her, it just happened.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpells
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Just curious, what is the motivation for parents to teach their kids Latin as a native language? I sort of understand how it can happen with esperanto, where a couple meets through esperanto events and then that becomes their shared language at home. Is it the same with Latin?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheNecromancer10

Daniel, I'm replying to your comment so that MissSpells can see this comment, because for some reason, comment chains in the Duolingo forums end at a mere 6 comments.

Anyway, I dug up a few links on this, because I don't really know why Latin is taught in schools, and I have to go quickly.

https://foundinantiquity.com/2015/02/07/five-reasons-why-latin-should-be-taught-in-schools/

https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/top-10-reasons-studying-latin/

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-schools-teach-Latin

https://buffalochestertonacademy.org/blog/3-practical-reasons-to-teach-latin-in-high-school

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

On Misspells. Deo volente have twins expected in March. I was going to read them Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata from week 24 Mom will baby talk them in Manipuri and we speak English to each other. I have grand plans but they won't last. They are twins be nice for them to have a language for each other that few understand. They don't have to go to Trinity to read Classics but that might be fun. Apparently they can pick up any language if you play with them and talk to them often enough in it so long as you yourself are fluent. I dunno never been a parent before I'm sure someone will think I am doing it all wrong but from my limited experience even stupid selfish people often have decent kids so it's not putting me off just yet. As for accent they are probably going to end up with an odd one given where we live and the languages we will speak to them.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimKillock
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This is fascinating (about the Latin teachers' daughter). How much Latin did she / does she speak now?

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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I think that there could be native Latin speakers the same way that there are native Esperanto speakers...

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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David, I will reply to your question by replying to MissSpells (it's nested too deep for me to reply there.) She wrote:

Just curious, what is the motivation for parents to teach their kids Latin as a native language? I sort of understand how it can happen with esperanto, where a couple meets through esperanto events and then that becomes their shared language at home. Is it the same with Latin?

The idea that most Esperanto native speakers are the offspring of international couples is a myth. International families are often occupied by raising their kids to speak their grandparents' languages - often juggling three or four languages. A good number (half) of Esperanto speaking families are like mine. We learned Esperanto together, after we met, and then chose to use it as a home language because we thought it would be enriching to grow up bilingual, plus it has allowed our children to participate fully when we are at events.

I don't recall that the husband of my Latin-speaking-friend spoke Latin (He may have - I just don't remember) but the motivation was very similar.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArpsTnd
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You made my day (but it's night here, nvm). Here's a useless lingot.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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They're not useless. You can use them to talk about buying a pizza.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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I wish we could exchange lingots for money from Duolingo. Of course, there's no way Duolingo would pay people for their lingots.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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There was some discussion about allowing people to pay cash to GET lingots as a way to bring revenue to Duolingo. I suspect that idea didn't go far.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GetUpStandGreen

Wow, and I wonder why Duolingo is trying that with gems... pfft lame

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArpsTnd
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Sure. I'd love a pizza.

Where would the pizza be coming from? If it's outside my country, well, better. I hate hot things. I eat champorado cold, I eat soups colds, even tea I drink cold. I don't want hot pizza either, so it better should come outside of my country so that it could cool off before coming to my doorstep.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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The night is part of the day. A day is 24 hours long, starting at midnight (12 AM).

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArtBurnap
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Having just visited a museum exhibition about Pompei, I particularly appreciated your 'digging up native speakers' remark. Gave you an upvote and a lingot.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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I applied this morning. I'm more than happy to apply my experience to the course :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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I immediately thought of you!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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I think I now understand how you felt when Esperanto was added to the incubator. Very complex situation :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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I was a latecomer to Duolingo. I even received an invitation to sign a petition to get Esperanto added and I ignored it. (I thought "Sheesh! Another silly petition to get some company to do something with Esperanto?")

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HirundoPrima
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I have applied, too.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Ego quoque!

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

I got a standard email response from noreply duo Hi,

We’re excited for your interest in participating in this monumental project! You can stay posted on Incubator progress here (incubator.duolingo.com). Once there is an opening, you might be contacted by a team member to help construct the course.

Thank you for all of your support. We are making language learning history together!

The Duolingo Team incubator.duolingo.com So I guess there was no opening for me. NM. It went to spam pretty much same time as I applied just saw it now.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Roman_Huczok
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Please Duolingo, Classical pronunciation. Also, please Duolingo, have audio. Ah, and please Duolingo, remember to release the courses currently in the incubator

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

I and my friends from the living Latin community use the classical reconstructed pronunciation, we will try to convince Duolingo to make it Classical Latin. There are volunteers to provide audio.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimKillock
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While this is my preference too I think it would actually be best if the course was available with audio in both, for people to choose. Also, whichever is chosen, accent and vowels are also important for an international audience. There are a lot of people whose spoken Latin is very good, but whose accent is not terribly authentic, for instance sounding rather English or American. This should be avoided - defaulting to more Mediterranean vowel sounds should be preferred.

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wyqtor
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Felix annus novus!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Gratias maximas! Tibi etiam felicem annum novum exopto.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WinterSoldier.

WOW! Thats awesome, hopefully it won't suffer the same fate as Yiddish and Haitian Creole

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lemniscatarum
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This is definitely a New Years' surprise!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperLearner007
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LEMNISCATARUM! Indeed, I hope you enjoy it as much as me :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lemniscatarum
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That is, if they get any contributors!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PannasOwen
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It will be a perfect accompaniment to my latin books. What a lovely new yaer surprise! No contributors yet : (

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Which books do you use?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Merakiulus
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Finally! Let's pop out the good champagne!!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/IsakNygren1
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The big question is which kind of Latin it will be? Contemporary, Medieval, Classic or what?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HalJam
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Pig ;)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_DragonFyre_

Igpay Atinlay. :)

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/compsognathus
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Celebramus! Now I need to remember all that I learned in school, 3 years ago!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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Now I need to remember all that I learned in school, 3 years ago!

Isn't the whole point of the Duolingo course that you don't have to remember what you learned in the past?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperLearner007
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GLORIOUS TIMES Y FRIENDS. THE TIME EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WAITING FOR, HAS FINALLY COME, AND IT'S HERE TO STAY.

VIVAT LATINE!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Xia267
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yay!!! Latin!! ;)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpells
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Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (now I am crossing my fingers for Ancient Greek)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Tats263027

As a Greek person I would much rather see Ancient Greek from modern Greek than from English but I guess I would settle.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JulesF.
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We all are :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Little_Tatws
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Fingers crossed for audio with classical pronunciation!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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Gratias agimus vobis, Duolingo! I can't wait to find out which pronunciation system they use... Also, the release date is today (1/1/2019) and there are no contributors.


I did hear in the past (actually yesterday, but from a post from over a year ago) that https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/la/en/status exists, but at that time it was missing some elements of regular Incubator entries.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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As can be seen from this 4+ year old post, those pages have idly sat there for most of DL's existence and shouldn't be taken as a sign of anything.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Latin for English speakers is legitimately looking for contributors at this time. So if you know any bilingual Latin/English speakers, they can apply here. :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HirundoPrima
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I have applied, thank you!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Ego etiam. Sed nemo mihi respondavit.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/t20f7gYt
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respondit :)

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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Yes. Whenever they have the course status shown, then they have been approved by the staff and are legitimate. When it's an empty page like Finnish, then it doesn't tell us anything. Except that someone in the staff has likely heard of such a language :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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An annus mirabils. Especially mirabilis as the course has no contributors and is scheduled to complete today!

I wonder who the contributors will be.

However, this is great news! Like Thomas_Wesley, I'll concentrate gripes now on lack of Koine or Classical or Homeric Greek.

When will Latin progress farther, here?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Meam applicationem misi sed nullum nuntium est.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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Dicunt Duolingonem alicui responsum raro reddere.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Si hoc verum est, quare mihi non respondent?

Et ❤❤❤❤ ut forma accusativa verbi "Duolingo" "Duolinginem" melior quam "Duolingonem" esse.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

juno junonis, quis scit

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LongHenry
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where are the contributors? also i hope the flag will be red with SPQR on it (senatus populusque romanus)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Herr_General

or: "Senatus Populus Quirites Romanus"...

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LongHenry
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-the enclitic -que would still be needed? there is discussion online on whether SPQR stands for senatus populusque romanus or senatus populusque romae or senatus populique quirites Romae

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Herr_General

you're definitely right... however, let me point out the beauty of that '-que' signifying the cohesion, the combination, the unity of the rulers and the ruled... amazing... have a nice evening

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ChristianR32353
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Mon Dieu, LongHenry! Comment faites-vous pour savoir toutes ces langues, dont 12 au niveau 25! Mais c'est fabuleux! Chapeau!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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Duo gratias!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ash.Purple

valde ambitiosum!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/davidvdb
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Annus novus bene initiatus est!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Hahae, recte!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Mundgeirr
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That's great news! I hope it follows carpelanam's course, which has a huge amount of content already and it has been developed using duolingo's format:

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/8053459

https://www.memrise.com/course/748509/latin-for-duolingo/

Another inspiration for style could be the Latin course: lingua latina per se illustrata:

https://chaharrah.tv/chaharrah-depot/arthouse/latin-attachments/latin-book.pdf

I hope the incubation time is not too long :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

Of the links I think it would be better to modify Orberg for duolingo because he sneaks in the grammar in the way Duo perhaps thought it could be done. Carpelana has done an amazing job though of adapting Latin to the previous style. And who listens to me. Thanks for the link mind took me ages to get LLPSI from the West. Hard to get some exports here. It's also legal for students to make copies of Western Text books for personal use another reason why it can be hard to get textbooks from the West.

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EvanCrescent

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hm437e
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Wonderful! Can't wait!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

WHAT! How can this happen and I not know about it half a day!?!? This, this is awesome. I can't wait for it to e finished. WOOOO! I can't contain myself! I've been waiting for this for almost a year!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elgatobandido
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What is Latin for "woohoo"?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Esen.
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Yes!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ash.Purple

Now you can learn another 7 words in yet another language!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperLearner007
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That was harsh, but true.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Esen.
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I will advance eventually.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pikachu025
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I commend this optimism! Keep it up, turtle dove! (Yep, I like birds!)

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Esen.
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;)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pikachu025
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Hey look, a person on the internet who can actually take a joke! This is a rare occurence! :D

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArpsTnd
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That feeling that I'm feeling down this New Year until I received this news. Yaaaayyy!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sean405747

Hooray!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KAMIKAZEKITTIES

I wonder how many "Rommanes eunt Dommus" jokes we'll be getting...

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JackHorne
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ROMANI ITE DOMUM!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HalJam
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1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Said985765

Should I contribute for this Course? I'm at a pretty good level in Latin and I have a few textbooks and dictionaries. And I have always wanted to make a Latin Course.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Cogito te collatorem esse posse.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/calynca
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Wow. Just wow.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/james903622

fantastic news, really looking forward to this!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/0-3
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Explodes with excitement!!!! :0

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jonathanbost
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YES! Finally! I had taken six years of Latin (first through sixth grade) and it's so helpful for derivatives and such, but I've forgotten so much!

Please do classical pronunciation!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jud9LX8Z

Thanks I want to learn latin

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Galaxy582
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Cool! But why is the estimated completion date January 2019? Is that because they have no idea when it will be completed?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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Because there are no contributors, nor have there ever been any, no one has added any words to the course. The incubator sees 0/0 words completed and thinks: "there doesn't seem to be any more words that need to be translated, I guess the course is ready to be released."

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GetUpStandGreen

Probably

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/D3XT3RY0NuT
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Why there is no flag? :(

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scarcerer
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Because they just added the course and haven't had the time to draw and implement it. That and the course page might be up in a month if we are lucky, or in four years if we are in for another Yiddish.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SuperLearner007
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Probably because Latin isn't spoken oficially in any country, and therefore, there isn't a country flag to add..

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheOptio
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They should but the flag of the SPQR

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Yeah, with Eagle and everything! SENATUS POPULESQUE ROMANUS!!!! I'm excitied, if you can't tell.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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A laurel wreath would make a good icon. I can't see 'SPQR' being legible on a tiny flag.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JackHorne
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That's a good idea

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/D3XT3RY0NuT
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Exactly!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Klgregonis
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The Vatican uses it as an official language, I'm not sure what their flag looks like.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/breadroll04

Hopefully Thai's next!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pikachu025
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Nice!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AaronTBD
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"Of course when studying medicine this is also very handy." Same when you're a zoologist and studying animals.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidSinghiser
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The BEST Christmas present!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rainstripe
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Laus Deo!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melyndi
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Oh my...! That's awesome! I had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't a joke! So exciting...! I should look in to whether my Latin is good enough to help. I'm definately not fluent and loosing what I do have the most Spanish I learn... Retroactive interference I guess :( but maybe I can help a little and speed things a long

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Adiuva quaeso, auxilium tuum requirimus!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chevy_Barnes

I learnt from Memrise that, in Latin: thank you (as a plural), was gratias vobis ago. Please tell me if Memrise was wrong. Also, I have been wanting Latin for ages! I cannot wait! (seriously, Imma explode if that course doesn't get completed soon)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Recte! "Gratias vobis ago" is a valid expression. I can't wait for the Latin course too. I also applied as a contributor but they didn't reply.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Merakiulus
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Stop saying the quote is "Euro-Centric". Nobody cares.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/YV.BG
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I am a pharmacy student, have studied Latin for the purposes of my profession. A great language, that's what I gotta say. I can't wait for this course to go live :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BradleyThomps

Este es tan emocionante!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JD.Hogan-Davies
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Good news! Maybe I can refresh all that Latin I did in college and grad school 20 years ago! Well, after I finish Welsh :).

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jdjmeyer

Gratias vobis valde, Duo Lingo!

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

I'm honestly surprised on how young you can be to contribute. 13+. I was thinking it would be more like 18 or 21, just because they need people who have more time, instead of being in school.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

Older people have jobs which take up way more time than school! Then there is life maintenance. I actually thought the lowest age was lower considering the "contributions" of a couple of users.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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The form is just out of date if it still says 13+. There was a change in policy. Contributors must now be 18+ . :)

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GetUpStandGreen

I'm still in school and have tons of free time. I don't study or have lots of homework though.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jesus849123
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Hi. Reginald Foster, can help you speaks fluent Latin and is very kind, would be willing to collaborate please contact him, thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh8K4L1TGzQ http://thelatinlanguage.org/contact/

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Reginal Foster will need to fill out this form if they wish to apply to contribute to a course. :)

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jesus849123
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He is an expert in Latin literature and an influential teacher of Latin, including 30 years at the Gregorian University in Rome and free summer courses that he has continued after returning to Milwaukee.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Jesus, I don't know this person and feel uncomfortable sending them an unsolicited invitation to apply. But, there is the link if you'd like to let them know Duolingo will be reviewing applications soon. :)

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PNilsestue

I think making Latin available to the general public would be great, but I also think that Duolingo's method of learning by translating would not work well for Latin.

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimKillock
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This may be a case where Duolingo is better as a support and revision tool rather than the sole way to learn. I suspect many people use Duolingo like that, even though it is marketed otherwise.

1 day ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Songve

"The font of all knowledge..." Maybe true as far as it was known in the really old days of Erasmus. Knowledge was more advanced in Asian countries. Come to think of it, the Aboriginal peoples were carving things on rocks 50,000 years ago when Europe was dominated by Cro-Magnon early people. Thankfully, Latin not used in QCD and use regular words like spin, color and charm. But Latin does help with understanding English.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/hm437e
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. . . and German and French and Italian . . Those Romans really got around!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling
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Thankfully, Latin not used in QCD and use regular words like spin, color and charm. But Latin does help with understanding English.

Indeed — English “color” and “charm” both came from Latin via Old French.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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The word 'quantum', on the other hand, comes straight from Latin, so 'Latin not used in QCD' falls at the very first hurdle...

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Simon264644

Why do we even need to feel so defensive and compare. And by the way, the European peoples do not come from the Cro-Magnon at all (well, a tiny bit). So these carvings were painted by their ancestors too. Truth is, all civilisations contributed to important knowledge. Let's not forget also that in these days, what the Europeans knew of the Asians was translated in latin! If you wanted to learn ONE language to learn as much knowledge as possible, it had to be latin.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FredrikVC

The Erasmus quote is remarkably Euro-centric.

Also, while much of the scientific text comes from Latin and Greek, English is not descendent from either of these languages.

But it's good to see another language in the incubator.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dudeski123
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That's not an argument for anything.

English has about 2/3 of it's vocabulary ultimately descending from Latin.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Klgregonis
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German, Dutch and the Scandinavian and even Gaelic languages have surprising amounts of vocabulary that descend from Latin, it was, after all, a lingua franca for about a thousand years, and French also had a huge influence throughout that time. But, vocabulary does not equal language. You need both the bricks (words) and the mortar (grammar). The mortar for English is largely Germanic, with a bit of Scandinavian and some Gaelic influences. Plus the creolization that occurred with repeated invasions, especially the one by Normandy in 1066.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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It's about 2/3 of English vocabulary, but it ends up being about 90% of the "big words" (three syllables and above) and that's why Latin helps English vocabulary so much.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Klgregonis
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The words we actually use most often are either Germanic, or if if Latin origin originally they were pre Norman French origin and have been so twisted they're nearly unrecognizable. Later additions, and academic vocabulary, definitely benefit from latin, though.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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The ones we use are the ones we already know :). It's all those big ones that are on the SATs.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FredrikVC

Citation for the 2/3rd figure, please.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/D3XT3RY0NuT
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58% of the vocabulary comes from either Latin or French (Latin based language). Check this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language#Word_origins

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

English has about 2/3 of it's vocabulary ultimately descending from Latin.

That doesn't match what I have learnt. English and Latin have a common ancestor language and Latin itself has been added by both French (another contributor to English) and English itself. However, the French often modified the words which is why you can get cognate words from both languages with different pronunciation and shades of meaning.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Simon264644

But this around 2/3 of vocabulary doesn't come directly from the common ancestor. They either come directly from Latin (usually science words or words describing nature), or French, primarily after the Norman conquest of England (which is where along latin where the cognates come from). This 2/3 has nothing to do with the fact that they have a common ancestor. And the French didn't "modify" their words in a way that they became cognate with English words.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

the French didn't "modify" their words

Sound changes from Latin to French included ka to cha then later sha. So the Latin root word "capa" comes into English as "cape" which is cognate with cupola. However in also came in via French as chapel. Later still the word for a covering re-entered English as "shawl". (With thanks to Kevin Stroud). So are these all counted as Latin?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

Who knows love. I read one of these intros to Linguistics and the chap was less fussed over what we call the language more on how it changes grows dies recovers. Apparently the claim is after the empire fell in the West, French Spanish, Italian, Roumanian and their subsets are all variants or dialects of latin that we now call separate languages. But if you got the time etymologies are interesting enough.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CYYdGk
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While English isn't descended from Latin and Greek, it has a lot of words derived from Latin and Greek since most of Europe (including the United States) borrowed ideas from the ancient Greeks and Romans hundreds of years ago. Not just English but most European languages. The alphabet used in English originated from Latin, which in turn originated from ancient Greece.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WendyCasti937079

I'm looking forward to the new addition.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Herr_General

GREAT! Sooner or later I'll be in the numero magno... Keep on going and VALETE!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlbertMartin1

I am going to start studying medicine soon but I don't know if I should try learning a bit of Latin.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EdLaBont

I would definitely learn Latin. I took a year of it in college, but that was a long time ago. As soon as it gets to beta, I will join it.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

There's still no one contributing. Wow. That makes me feel good about it getting done quick.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Would you want them to take the very first applications that arrive or wait and review from a larger pool so they can get the best?

Additionally, as someone who was added as a contributor to one of Duolingo's courses on Christmas Eve, I'm still not showing up in the public page even though I am on the private page. However, even though I'm not on the public page, I have access to editing the course. I'm still training in how to operate the Incubator interface and learning the recommended teaching method, etc. though so I haven't added any content yet.

Can we start this Latin course off with encouraging comments rather than complaints? Regardless of what's going on behind the scenes that may or may not have shown up yet on the course page, complaints are not motivators to course building teams. It's a real energy drain and can slow things down. It's like giving someone a present for holiday and having them be very rude about it. Why give to that person again? And these courses are presents from volunteers. We aren't required to give. We give because we are excited to give something as a gift. It's rather offputting when people are terrible about it and feel that rather than a gift it's something we owe them and they proceed to get angry and complain and insult, etc.

If people would pause long enough to imagine themselves giving a gift and having others respond in such a way, I think it might change how they behave in the forums for the better. :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ArtBurnap
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I agree with you Usagiboy. Upvoted and gave you a lingot.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Well, I didn't really mean for that to be a complaint. I was just kind of surprised that no one had entered yet. I mean, I'd love to help, but I'm not bilingual or anything special like that. Sorry.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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Maybe someday you will be bilingual and can join a course and help guide its future versions. Don't give up! :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/oskalingo
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A new toy course to bring in fresh users for Facebook and Google to track.

See this forum discussion of the recent Privacy International report on how the Duolingo android app shares tracking data with Facebook, Google, etc

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/30194369

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pvrg3b0y_gv4p0

I applied to contribute, anybody else?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissPavari

Yay! I am so excited!!!!!!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

I applied as a contributor, no replies so far.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LongHenry
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gratias

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LongHenry
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where the contributors at yo. been checking the incubator the whole week, nothing yet. maybe next week?!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

Hopefully. Dum spiro spero, hahae :)

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LongHenry
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meaning? plz

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/AlpinusAxuus

It is a Latin saying about not giving up, the literal translation would be "While I breathe, I hope.". And "Hahae" is how modern Latin speakers express laughter.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LinguistIn2
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Lol. My English teacher has that phrase on his whiteboard.

I always automatically associate it with Spanish: "Mientras respiro, espero."

2 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DracoRen352

I think it will be interesting to learn, I am excited.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BrittGobble

How exciting!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KaptianKaos8
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Oh my Jupiter that actually did it!

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sea-mist

This is exciting as it is one of a few languages which interests me. I need to finish the German first and continue learning the French I started learning in high school.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Osnakezz
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I wonder what monument they'll use... and what symbol.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Frank_Pisaturo

Yay! I cast my vote for ecclesiastical pronunciation ;)

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimKillock
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My own view is that the choice should be offered; I know that would probably be awkward for Duolingo (two versions might need to be supported) but forcing people to use pronunciation they don't wish to use will put a lot of people off either way.

1 day ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LinguistIn2
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They have their first contributors! Buachaill1 and ¿myra? !

2 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jonathanbost
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Nope, Myra is just an admin who probably added Buachaill1 and adjusted the approximate finish date.

2 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lcates55
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Will this be classical or mediaeval?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Danielconcasco
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I imagine it has to be Classical. If you can read Classical Latin the Medieval stuff isn't bad. Going the other way would be a nightmare ;)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lcates55
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Thanks.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ampharos64

I agree about going the other way being worse, and it makes less sense to do that, but I did struggle hugely with medieval Latin -which was what we actually needed to read- while being taught classical Latin. 'Here's all these rules! Learnt them? ...lol medieval people don't care, GL!' A few bonus skills for medieval Latin would be amazing.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lcates55
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I suppose it will be a bit of a trick to find a context?

Typically, one learns Classical Latin to read the great authors--Cicero, Caesar, etc. I learned Mediaeval for my doctoral dissertation in mediaeval logic. But I learned relatively little about the Latin words for cars, internet, etc.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissSpells
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I am guessing the Latin words for internet and car would be internet and automobile, since both these words are half Latin anyway.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Herr_General

in principle, you're right... in any case, if I'm not wrong, there's an institution (forgot its name!) - kind of academy of Latin professors and scholars - which tries to render 'modern' words in Latin... some results sound a bit ridiculous, but I believe they're struggling to think as 'real' Latin people... have a nice evening!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimKillock
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I think 'raeda' (waggon) is used for car; 'Interrete' is what Wikipedia Latin uses for Internet

1 day ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

Some of the modern textbooks like to offer readings to improve understanding in Latin rather than translation from the spread of Latin Literature. Latin for the new Millenium. But there is still an understanding of classicized Latin so Augustine and Erasmus Petrach figure. Some texts are easier. Different vocabulary and constructions gradually change I think it's a more liberating way to look at texts. If you can read then read yes. Especially reading to understand rather than translate. There's a joy to be had in that especially if you no longer have to parse words or offer crib word for word translations.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/D3XT3RY0NuT
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Would it be Vulgar or Classical? This is even a more important question.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Roman_Huczok
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No way they'd do Vulgar, given that it 1. doesn't describe a single language (for lack of a better word) but rather a grouping of often quite different languages, ancestors of present Romance languages (and of some dead languages). Not only that, but there are next to no texts in Vulgar Latin. I really hope they go for Classical pronunciation. Vulgar Latin is not happening.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/D3XT3RY0NuT
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You are right. :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RachelF12345
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Yayy!!! But there aren't any contributors??

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/salivanto
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Woah, so many comments. Unfollowing post! :-)

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulRichardKuehn

I studied Latin for two years when I was in high school in the 1950s. It really helped me with English and with learning Romance languages like Spanish and French. I look forward to this course on Duolingo!

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MariaNunez46

Finally!

4 days ago
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