https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Thank You, Duolingo, for Latin!

Pretty self-explanatory, I have been waiting for about 9 months in search of somewhere I could learn Latin. Then, about 2 months ago I found DL and asked if Latin was on it. Everyone said no, but it was such a good website, I used it to learn different languages anyway. But I'm very happy that I will now be able to learn Latin (if they get enough contributors, that is). It has so many different good qualities to it. I am very excited, and I can't wait. I can't even complain about how long it'll probably take because I'm so grateful for DL approving of making a Latin course. You guys don't have to respond. I don't care if you downvote. I'm just so excited!!!

Thanks, guys!

1 week ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/merkavar

let’s start counting the days till it’s released.

Anyone want to bet?

My bet is 897 days

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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You may be right. Only time will tell if development of the Latin course will be any quicker than development of the Arabic course, for instance, or if the slot in the incubator is just a sop intended to head off, for a time, more of the constant requests for a Latin course.

A more general comment: If you do not care for Latin, why don't you just not comment about it? Your constant bad-mouthing of anything to do with Latin is quite annoying. There are plenty of people to whom Latin is of interest, so why not just leave it alone and "get out of the way if you can't lend a hand?"

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Melyndi
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that long really? There is such a high demand for it and so many willing contributors I don't think it will take long once they get going. Also it's much easier than a lot of the languages they've been working on lately

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas_Wesley
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I'll go with a more optimistic bet - 300 days.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Really? Wow. How long did it take for Arabic- er- how long has it been since Arabic was started? I was betting Latin would only be about a little over a year or so. But 2 and a half years?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DanielvanD20707

Well, I'd say I don't really care if it takes time... better to wait for good quality than having a course rushed and being poorly created.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

True.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CadetheBruce
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3-4 years. It took them almost 4 yeas to complete the Indonesian course (I was waiting for that one).

When I checked earlier, there wasn't anyone showing as a contributor for the Latin course even though it's in the incubator. I wouldn't be surprised if the other shoe that drops is that they are going to hire someone to make to course and that the course will only be available for Plus members or some other paid subscription to Duolingo. You'd be naive to think Duolingo wouldn't consider that at this point.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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and that the course will only be available for Plus members or some other paid subscription to Duolingo.

That would violate their claim that Duolingo users can "learn a language for free forever".

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WarriorCleberz
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I asked the Latin Course too, I've been waiting this for about 4 years this course here on DL. I hope that it has a long tree, with many vocabulary and with the SPQR flag! Rome is alive! Gratias tibi Domini Deum!

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https://www.duolingo.com/rabelon
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I am with you. Please post when you learn of the start of the course. I will be signed on too!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Alrighty!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VballGurl9

Duolingo teaches Latin? Awesome! Yeah, I learn it at school, and it has many benefits to it. Helpful when applying for jobs too. Good for you Jrforaker23. :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/merkavar

What job does Latin help you apply for?

Pope? Pope’s librarian?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/I.Am.Tigress.
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advocatus diaboli? : ) sorry......I could not resist

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VballGurl9

Very funny. attorney, doctor, lawyer. they all contain Latin phrases. Esp. med. school

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andrew213489

So in English we steal a lot of different phrases. You either learn them or you don't. We are creatures which can't know everything.

As we must select what is and isn't important to grow as individuals.

Find your passion and learn those important thing to become better at what you want to do in life.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CadetheBruce
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My father taught anatomy to med students. You learn the Latin you need in your med classes. Learning the language itself is really not necessary. It's a little more helpful for lawyers, but not really. US law uses a lot of Yiddish words too, but you don't see people telling lawyers to learn Yiddish, because you don't need to know to whole language to known some phrases and vocabulary.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/scilling
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US law uses a lot of Yiddish words too,

You’ve piqued my curiosity — which Yiddish words are used in US law?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Yes. Exactly what I was about to say. Thanks Berns (is it okay if I call you Berns? It just sounds better than Bernie.)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VballGurl9

Sure, fine by me. ;)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/merkavar

Oh yeah, Latin phrases and words.

But is being able to talk about your weekend in Latin going to help? Or are you just going to learn the words.

Also isn’t there a push to remove a lot of the Latin from professions, especially legal stuff? To reduce barriers for normal people? I was hearing about that years ago.

Like saying guilty mind instead if mens rea or what not.

I guess my point was putting “fluent in Latin” isn’t going to help get many jobs. And for legal or medical jobs you would put your qualifications and experience which would include some Latin, not that you are fluent in Latin.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

So your only reason for learning a language is getting a job? That's fine but there are heaps of other reasons. And it actually may help with jobs - doctor, scientist, lawyer, historian, researcher, language teacher (not necessarily for Latin but it has flow on effects). And it also can help you get a job not related to Latin as a Latin can be seen as an indicator of education (and actually in the Middle Ages it could get you off a murder rap).

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/betsys2003
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I think "to get a job" is one of the least fun reasons to learn a language, but I still thought about asking the same thing, because the OP said it "helped with getting a job" and I'm not really sure it is.

Can it maybe help you in your STUDIES to become a doctor or a lawyer? Like, maybe it makes it a little easier to learn certain terms? Sure. But I'm not sure anyone is going to hire you because you say you studied latin on your resume.

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https://www.duolingo.com/PotatoSanta
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Maybe there aren't many jobs that specifically require Latin but knowing it or other languages can always be used to show you are capable of learning on your own and have a broader range of skills which is useful for getting hired in general.

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https://www.duolingo.com/AviaHazut
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Holy hell did you really finish all the trees for all these languages or am I imagining.. Can you actually speak those languages?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/rabelon
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That is so funny. You can also apply for Smartest Alek.

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https://www.duolingo.com/PotatoSanta
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Should only languages good for jobs be allowed on Duolingo?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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Should only languages good for jobs be allowed on Duolingo?

Absolutely not! There are many other purposes of learning languages than jobs.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/carwile.brett

No, but they never once tried to imply that. The message I seem to be getting is that studying Latin isn't going to help you get a job. (As the original commenter stated that apparently it helps to have Latin when applying for jobs) They never once stated that you shouldn't study it, they just stated you are mistaken if you think it will help.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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Latin isn't really for jobs, and it's certainly not just for the Pope.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andrew213489

Hey I don't know... right now I wouldn't want to work for the Vatican with all it's steamy hot scandals they are currently working thru.

Maybe a pass on Latin since there is no need out side the walls of Vatican City?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

Maybe a pass on Latin since there is no need out side the walls of Vatican City?

A joke? There may not be a country that uses it today - but there is a huge amount of documents out there in Latin and it also heavily influences the vocab of many languages.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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Hey I don't know... right now I wouldn't want to work for the Vatican with all it's steamy hot scandals they are currently working thru.

I'd think that whether or not you're Catholic and/or living near the Vatican would be more relevant in considering working there.

Maybe a pass on Latin since there is no need out side the walls of Vatican City?

Latin is used outside of Vatican City, and not only by Catholics. Plenty of people of other religions learn it.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Pancho_Delanave
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As someone else pointed out, Latin is used outside of Vatican City and not only by Catholics. People of all kinds of backgrounds have a use for and interest in Latin. However, for us Catholics it is highly relevant. There are over a billion Catholics in the world. About one out of seven people on the planet belong to an organization whose official language is Latin. That’s an enormous number of people on all continents for whom Latin is relevant. That’s also an enormous number of potential Duolingo users. Duolingo is smart to offer something that could appeal to over a billion people ( as well as the ones who are interestef in Latin for the literature, the history, for historical reenactments, etc).

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Actually, no it doesn't It's just now being created. It's in the incubator (https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/la/en/status).

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/VballGurl9

Ok, but still, at least they are really working on it and considering it ;)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ShotgunJohnny99
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Lol you have no idea how long certain people in this forum have been agitating for Latin. IT'S ABOUT TIME :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Ravisankar622309

Iam interested in learning Latin through DUOLINGO.Eagerly waiting to get enrolled.

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https://www.duolingo.com/RachelF12345
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I've also been waiting for it. I really want to learn it for future jobs and also because Spanish, French, Italian, and Portuguese (the major ones are the only ones I wrote) are derived from Latin. So thank you so much Duolingo!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

You may still have a long wait :-) . No contributors yet and we are still waiting for Arabic (mind you I suspect the alphabet may have caused some issues).

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Maybe a long wait but I have a feeling it will be well before Yiddish and Hatian Creole.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Hehe, yeah. I would contribute, but then again, that's why I want the course, so I can actually learn the language. I don't think it will be that hard, to make the course.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

????

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Well, I just was saying that if I could help, I would help. I'm not the best at making good grammar (that was intentional). I also write things more complicated than they should be. Sorry. It's just how my brain works.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HelenM11838
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I do hope that this happens and is a success. Then we might be able to lobby for some other, how can I put this politely, written rather than spoken languages.

Latin first, then Anglo-Saxon, Ancient Egyptian (hieroglyphics not the scripts please) and at least one version of cuneiform.

And no, there are not many jobs that need these (the jobs that do tend to be fun, though) but there are no longer resources for them in schools and universities, so how else can you inspire the next generation or create the army of hobbyists required to fill the gap?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LobstaJohnson

sedare dolorum opus divinum est! :-)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidBall646242

Currently concentrating on Polish with German as my second language. Has already decided that in a year or two I would move onto Latin (using books only I had thought) and One or Hungarian, Greek, Russian or Ukrainian - so a Duolingo version in about 1 -2 years would be perfect timing for me

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Usagiboy7
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In the future, please add something like this as a comment to a pre-existing discussion to help reduce clutter in the forums. Thanks! :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

Okay, no problemo.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SniperWolff90

Do you have any ideas when the course will be live? I was also looking everywhere to find a good Latin course.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ISpeakAlien
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I hope that the Latin course will teach all of the grammar at the beginning and then build vocabulary. I also strongly hope that it will use ecclesiastical, not classical, pronunciation because classical pronunciation sounds hideous. However, there are many users who disagree, so maybe Duolingo could design a way to provide a choice.

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If they add sound I just hope their is some attempt at a consistent and realistic sounding pronunciation. So many people are taught the grammar but pronounce Latin exactly as their native language.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Pancho_Delanave
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I hope that they can at least provide a choice, too. I remember that the Russian course used to offer an option between the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets ( now it is just Cyrillic ). I don’t think it would be difficult to provide the option, just to have everything recorded twice.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Proverbs_2_6
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Thank you so much, Duolingo! Gratias omnis vobis ago! (I think that's correct, at least.)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/imninaherron

I News asap

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/wyqtor
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While I would have preferred living languages such as Serbo-Croatian, Bulgarian, Armenian, Georgian, or Thai, at least I am happy they haven't added yet another constructed language, or an endangered language to be rushed without audio like Hawaiian and Navajo.

Latin was very important right up to the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution. Sir Isaac Newton wrote his treatise on Classical Mechanics and Calculus in Latin: Principia Mathematica Philosophiae Naturalis (The Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy). There are many valuable texts that were written in Latin.

However, it isn't going to help you as much in learning other Romance languages. They all, without exception, evolved from the vernacular Vulgar Latin, meaning they are much more closely related to each other than to Latin itself. Long story short, a cursory knowledge of Spanish (as opposed to Latin) is going to help you a lot more when trying to learn Italian.

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