Audio updates to the SW & EO courses. Any hope for new Vietnamese Audio?
It looks like Duolingo has turned on the functionality for course contributors to finally add their own audio. After a long wait the Swahili course finally has audio! The Esperanto course is also getting additional audio for sentences that previously had no recordings.
I'm not really sure how active the Vietnamese course contributors are currently, but it would be awesome if we could get some additional audio for sentences that are missing a recording, especial further on down the tree. A woman's voice and/or South Vietnamese pronunciation would be great!
Both me and another user, Julestheman, applied to be new course contributors since the group who created this course went inactive. I never heard back from Duolingo. It's such a shame, because I live in Hanoi, my Vietnamese is at quite a high level (certainly high enough to provide audio and correct translations), plus I have Hanoi friends who can help me with anything I couldn't do myself. I'd love to make the Vietnamese course into a top tier Duolingo course like the Spanish and French courses, but I suppose the Duolingo staff just doesn't have the manpower to respond to every application from the userbase.
don't give up hope. I just started Vietnamese to take a break from Indo-Euro and enjoy it, as far as the spotty audio and support go. Would love a robust course and you seem the right person for the job.
Found a post about it in the forums. I included a link to it in my post. You can find it if you click on the "additional audio" link.
Lingodeer offers a Vietnamese course, a better alternative to the one here on Duo. But you would have to pay lifetime membership and get it fast if you can afford it otherwise they jack up the price after one day of registering.
Seems like things have not moved for years. They put in this "blue ink" for words but still skimpy on Tips and Notes. Eg, in Passive the sole "tip" is "2 forms of passive".
And now the Tips/Notes for Prepositions is simply "dùng kết hợp với "ở"". Yeah, that sounds like it's gonna be a heap of help.
Wow, it would be great !
Listening to the people that can speak mother tongue well may help the beginners. You know beginners are very new to this web and if they are hear the foreigner pronounce will very difficult to them.
You can add how to pronounce the words, so they can pronounce it correctly
Anyway, thanks for your help !!!
I wouldn't want Southern Pronunciation, Central would be acceptable I guess. Unfortunately the reality is that we're not going to get anything though. The Vietnamese course contributors are long gone and no new ones have taken over. This is why there are so many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of error reports which never get read, and so later sections of the course remain buggy in the extreme.
It makes no sense for Duo to allow the Vietnamese course to be heavily neglected when there is a lot of missing audio or the many errors you mentioned that went ignored. If something is broken or neglected action should be taken to fix the problem and improve on the quality not leave it as is.
My take is that Vietnamese isn't as popular to its user base as Korean, Japanese or Chinese is to warrant giving it any more attention. Quite unfortunate.
Vietnamese isn't as popular to its user base as Korean, Japanese or Chinese is to warrant giving it any more attention
It is unfortunate despite Vietnam being part of the Sinosphere (countries whose cultures are heavily influenced by Chinese culture). Vietnam has always been overlooked from the East Asian sphere due to the country being geographically in Southeast Asia (thus with cultural influence from nearby SEA countries), past French colonization, and China, Japan, and Korea being highly developed and very influential in culture, power and economy while Vietnam remains far behind economically. If Vietnam reaches the same level of development, status and cultural influence as the rest of the East Asian countries perhaps Vietnamese would achieve the same level of popularity as Chinese, Japanese, and Korean.
The sad reality is that Vietnam probably won't reach the level of the countries that you mentioned above in our life time. If you live in the country then you'll realize just how many problems there are preventing that from happening.
Southern Pronunciation would super useful for people traveling to Saigon and for communicating with the large Vietnamese communities in the US (1.5 mil). From what I understand Central pronunciation gives Northerns and Southerns alike some difficulty.
Central pronunciation is the hardest one for me to hear given that I'm a native speaker so I don't know why you would want that. If you want to learn Vietnamese, then I just wouldn't recommend this website. The majority if not all the sentences sound unnatural. The reason for the limited amount of contributors is probably because Vietnamese people never expect foreigners wanting to learn our language. On top of that, there are very few people that are proficient in English in Vietnam so that further narrow down the pool of potential contributors.
Thanks! I've always thought the Vietnamese communist flag lacked originality.