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Gendered words

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I am a native English speaker, am also learning Spanish, and am pretty new to Chinese. I'm trying to figure how gendered words work. There are a lot in Spanish but I have only come across a few in Chinese so far.

I understand that "ta men" means they and that he plural and she plural are said the same way but are written differently. But when writing does he plural mean "exclusively a group of men" or does it mean "a group people of possibly mixed genders with at least one man" the same way it does in Spanish? Is there a default gender when you are reading/writing? Is this a hard and fast rule across all of Chinese, is it a rule that applies up except in x/y/z, or is this just something to memorize with each set of new words?

Also I'm still figuring out how to get my keyboard to accent marks. Sorry in advance for spelling errors.

1 week ago

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When using 他 in the sentence, you are commonly referring to a male living being. However, the special case (ref) that 他 can also be a female takes place in context not clearly given. For instance,

他吃麵嗎?

which means

Does he eat noodles?

However, if the speaker who does not clearly knows the gender of 他, then he/she means

Does he or she eat noodles?

Otherwise, using 她 would make the speaker sound gender-stereotypical more than using 他 since 他 and 她 do not conversely have the same (and obvious) meanings. Thus, 他 is an ideal pronoun to use as well as 他們 if referring to multiple people.

Note: 他們 can also be used instead of 他 if you do not exactly know the number of people in a group (one person in a group counts!). Thus, it is also safe to say

他們吃麵嗎?

You may also want to read this article for more information.

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For keyboarding Chinese, if you are typing pinyins, the screen will display all possible characters with these pronunciations. Typing longer pinyin for longer characters will filter the results to the specific word choice, making character-finding more simple.

Some inputs come with roman-alphabet-shortcut to create the specific accent mark, whereas others come with numbers, such as (1 for straight, 2 for raise, 3 for concave, 4 for sharp-fall). It would help if you provide more information about your Chinese input since Chinese keyboarding comes with many different inputs.

1 week ago

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Thank you. Is there a program or specific keyboard (I've only done that on my old iphone years ago) that you would recommend? Or is this something that is just built into windows?

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For iPhone, there are several ways to input the characters, which can be adjusted under Settings. If you are the starter, then you should try pinyin first before writing (which can take crucial amount of time to memorize the radicals). More info is here.

Note: You can also add traditional Chinese keyboard in the similar manner. Such characters also work on Duolingo.

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I'm new to Chinese as well but I believe 'ta men' is most often written with the male version of 'ta' and refers to mixed genders with at least one man. When 'ta men' is written with the female character it refers only to a group of women.

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I have no idea what you are saying but is you are referring to a group of girls and boys then you use 他们 but if you are referring to a group of boys its also 她们. The only time you use 她们 is when you're referring to a group of girls. Also, to write chines on a pc or windows you go to the bottom right corner and next to the date there is a language option, for me Chinese came automatically but if yours doesn't you can download it quite easily. Just press language preferences and the rest you can probably figure out.

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