https://www.duolingo.com/emilee608322

Should I use Deine or Ihre when writing email?

I want to say " Thank you very much for your email" so in German would I say, "Vielen dank für deine E-mail?" or would I say "Vielen dank für Ihre E-mail?"

-( P.s)I am writing formally to a women if that affects it

-could you help me, and explain why?

Thanks so much!

1 week ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Robert-Alexan
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  • die E-Mail > it's a noun and must be capitalized.
  • der Dank > also a noun

German has three options that vary in formality and politeness:

  • Vielen Dank für deine E-Mail. > Use this for informal communication. Like when you write your mother, your friend from high school or your BFF.

  • Vielen Dank für Deine E-Mail. > Use this when you want to be extra nice and respectful but know the addressee well. You would use this when writing to older members of your extended family, very familiar co-workers that you'd address by their first name, your soccer team's coach, etc. It's important that you and the addressee either concludently or formally have agreed to be on "Du-terms". You want to use capitalized Du and the corresponding possessive pronoun Dein(e, r) in all following sentences.

  • Vielen Dank für Ihre E-Mail. > Use this when you want to be very formal. Like when thanking your professor, your teacher, your boss, the Queen, any person holding an office or any fairly unknown person. As a consequence you then use always capitalized Sie and and the corresponding possessive pronoun Ihr(e, r) in all following sentences.

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https://www.duolingo.com/MarcinM85
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If you are writing formally, then use Ihre. It doesn't matter if you are writing to a woman or to a man. It is Ihre because E-Mail is feminine in German. However, in Austria it can apparently be also neuter:
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/E-Mail

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/emilee608322

oh okay ! Thank you!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HeinB.
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@MarcinM85 Das E-Mail? Finde ich lustig. :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/Robert-Alexan
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It is! However, that's typical for foreign words. Especially words from languages that don't assign a gender to their nouns. It will take years, even decades, before Germans (+Austrians, etc. ..) agree what gender these words are supposed to have. Sometimes we draw analogies from related words (like die Mail~die Post), sometimes we adopt the foreign gender (like when the word has a Latin or Romance origin like die Pasta or das Forum, die Dusche~la douche), sometimes we have an idea of the biological gender of that word in question (like der Freak, der Nerd, der Taoiseach), sometimes we use our (fairly unknown) gender guidelines (I guess that's why we say der Toyota, der Hurrikan, der Orkan) sometimes we look for how it sounds (so if I had to assign a gender to the word -let's say- baby shower I'd say der Baby-Shower, because Shower sounds similar to der Schauer and I expect these words go back to a common Germanic source. Another example would be die Show~die Schau or das Skateboard~das Bord). There's simply no "language authority" that eventually defines the gender "by law".

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Andu444
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I'd say 'die Baby-Shower', wahrscheinlich weil es 'die Dusche' ist. :)

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https://www.duolingo.com/Robert-Alexan
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Here you go ... it ain't easy ...and we even have not started to discuss how we come up with the correct plural form of foreign words.....

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HeinB.
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Indeed, even the 'Duden' says "...die oder das E-Mail". I never thought about how and why genders of neologisms are defined. Thanks for the explanation.

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https://www.duolingo.com/AdeleRakete
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Ich kenne nur “die E-Mail”. Ich habe noch nie jemanden “das” sagen hören. Zumindest nicht in Mitteldeutschland. Wo außer im Duden hast Du das gehört? Im Süden?

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https://www.duolingo.com/HeinB.
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Du meinst wahrscheinlich Robert-Alexan? Ich habe auch noch nie jemanden "das E-Mail" sagen hören. Aber ich kenne andere Beispiele, in Süddeutschland sagt man das Cola, der Schokolade, usw. Daher wundert es mich nicht. Irgendwas wird die Duden-Redaktion sich schon dabei gedacht haben, wenn sie beides gelten lässt.

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https://www.duolingo.com/MarcinM85
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Ich wohne in Wien, aber ich bin mich nicht sicher, ob man hier das E-Mail sagt. Jemand hat mir gesagt, dass man die E-Mail sagt, wenn man eine Mitteilung meint, und das E-Mail, wenn man das E-Mail-System meint. Ich weiß aber nicht, ob das stimmt. Ich glaube, ich habe nur die E-Mail gehört.

Auf der anderen Seite sagen alle hier das Cola.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Robert-Alexan
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What HeinB. said..

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https://www.duolingo.com/AdeleRakete
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I only know "die E-Mail". I've never heard anyone say “das”. At least not in central Germany. Where else did you hear “das” except in the Duden? In the south of Germany perhaps?

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https://www.duolingo.com/fehrerdef
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In Switzerland

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https://www.duolingo.com/emilee608322

I guess Du =dein sie=ihr sie(formal) =ihr..... So I would want to use Ihr.... and then because it is a woman I am writing to, I would write "ihre" ???

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https://www.duolingo.com/Robert-Alexan
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The possessive pronoun of Sie is Ihr(e, r). Sie can refer to both men and women (sometimes even to neuter gender nouns). That's why Ihre (also capitalized) also works with subjects of all three genders. Ihre must be declined like every other pronoun. It's case, number and gender is supposed to match the case, number and gender of the the thing that is possessed. It does not match the gender, case and number of the possessor. Some examples:

  • Vielen Dank für Ihr Geschenk > das Geschenk (neuter, singular, nominative) > accusative: das Geschenk
  • Vielen Dank für Ihren Brief > der Brief (masculine singular, nominative) > accusative: den Brief
  • Vielen Dank für Ihre Mails. > die Mail (feminine, singular, nominative) > accusative, plural: die Mails
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https://www.duolingo.com/Andu444
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sie = she, ihre = her
er = he, seine = his
Sie = you (formal), Ihre = your (formal)
du = you (informal), deine = your (informal)

So you might be confused because of sie/Sie (she/you), ie the same word but with and without a capital letter means something different, the same goes for ihre/Ihre (her/your).
The you (formal or informal) does not change according to the person's gender, ie Sie is used for both a man and a woman.
It is Ihre (and not Ihr) because email is feminine in Germany.

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https://www.duolingo.com/speising
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A general rule of thumb is to use informal when you are on a first name basis, and formal when you'd say "sir/ma'am".

Since you say you are already writing formally, "Ihre" is the only option in accordance with the rest of your mail.

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https://www.duolingo.com/Hubert802318
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Das ist etwas, was Duolingo nicht erklärt.

Im deutschsprachigen Raum bietet man sich an irgendeinem Zeitpunkt das Du-Wort an. Das heißt, vorher ist man per-sie, danach per-du.

Vorher ist "Ihre E-mail" korrekt, danach "Deine E-mail"

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This is something, Duolingo does not explain.

In the german speaking area, it is custom to offer the "Du" to each other at some point. Before that, people address each other with "Sie", after that with "Du"

Before that, "Ihre E-mail" is correct, after that "Deine E-mail".

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