https://www.duolingo.com/J_J_max

Latin has its first contributor!

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https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/la/en/status

We have our first contributor! Buachaill1 is the first! Congratulations! More will, undoubtedly, soon follow. I hope they begin as soon as they can.

1 week ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/jonathanbost
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Yay! I'm glad we're getting somewhere with this course! I still think that carpelanam (a Latin teacher for 15 years and author of the unofficial course) should be a contributor, but of course, if she doesn't want to, that's fine.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam
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Thank you, I do indeed want to contribute but haven't heard anything.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/carpelanam
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To those wondering: Yes, I have applied. Once almost five years ago, and again on Jan. 1. I have not heard anything yet other than the computerized response. I will be happy to help build the course if that is what Duolingo staff request, but it is out of my hands.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/93k8nXGk

Hey I looked at the course you did and it's solid work. And since it follows the standard duolingo style I presume it would be easier and simpler to implement. Can I ask what would you think of modifying it for a natural language approach. I don't know if you have read through Lingua Latina per se illustrata. It claims to teach grammar without making it sound so terrifying. Unless you really don't like the natural language approach in which case I understand not pressing. @carpelanam

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jonathanbost
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I hope you get accepted to contribute, then! Duolingo would be foolish not to accept you as a contributor.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Merakiulus
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You would have been my first option to put on the course, your language lessons are amazing!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ThaliPotter
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hope you do contribute carpelanam

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jr.Foraker23

WOOHOO!! That's awesome! Congrats Buachalli!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LinguistIn2
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Lol. They also changed the estimated time of completion:

"Estimated Completion Date: January 7, 2020"

It'll probably take longer than that but let's see how it progresses.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RachelF12345
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oof I'm so impatient waiting for latin is going to be horrible

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RUZY917628

OOF, well latin is considered somewhat of a “dead language” so there aren’t any native speakers, although some people do speak it as a second language, congratulations to whoever thought of this .

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Djedida
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If anyone wants a headstart on learning Latin, here are two mock-up courses on Memrise that are designed to have a Duolingo-like progression:

https://www.memrise.com/course/1010221/latin-for-english-speakers-duolingo-like/

This one has good audio, but only 138 cards to learn from.

https://www.memrise.com/course/906792/carpelanams-duolingo-latin-sentences/

This one has no audio, but has 2773 cards.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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That's marvelous! Congratulations and best of success to Buachaill1!

Carpelanum would be a good choice too, as has been mentioned.

People on the web who appear to be very fluent are Luke Ranieri, Justin Slocum Bailey, Daniel Pettersson, Msgr Daniel Gallagher and there are many more who could be listed, some of them college professors or H.S. teachers, just among English speakers, let alone many people in the GREX.

There are dozens of other people who would be excellent--who not only have an academic knowledge of the language but are truly fluent. Heaven only knows if they'd sign up to develop a course for free, but having people writing the course w/ fluency like theirs working along w/ Buachaill1 would be marvelous.

When does a forum for a language appear on Duolingo, BTW? It would be nice to have a forum for Latin. We could recommend good websites, books, newsgroups, etc.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JimKillock
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I dropped a very brief email to GREX about this, if you or anyone else wants to give it a push I am sure that would be ok.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger
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Super! Way to go. I'm not a member of the GREX right now, however,.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HirundoPrima
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Congratulations!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/J_J_max
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Hi Hirundo. I have seen in other posts that you’ve applied, and I hope they choose you to help build the course as well! I think you’d do great.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HirundoPrima
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Thank you for the support and the kind words! I would really like to contribute!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ESK_22

Yes, judging from his large collection of languages he must be good at this! Hirundo, I would love it if you helped with Latin, maybe it'll take less than 5 years to create the course! :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessert-Rose
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Yay! Thank you very much Buachaill1. :)

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheNecromancer10

I wish there were a way to "userping" users like one can on Reddit. I really hope that @Buachaill1 sees this thread.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dessert-Rose
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Ah, yes! That would definitely be a nice adage. :)

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SlytherinForever

Hey Rose! Thank you for the kind words you gave me the other day!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Elgatobandido
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I'm so excited to finally see Latin in the incubator.
I just hope when it is finally released it has sound and a nice healthy notes section.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/WelshYoutu

I looked at the unofficial course a while ago and it looked really cool! I hope carpelanam contributes!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas_Wesley
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salve!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Lightt.

Salve! Gratias vobis ago Duolingo!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_DragonFyre_

YAY!

Thank you @Buachaill1!
I have wanted for there to be a latin course for a while, you will help make that happen!

Also, thank you JJ for updating us on this issue!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MacIomhair
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Do we know yet which Latin this is going to be? Classical, vulgar, ecclesiastical or something else entirely?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/2E3S
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Vulgar Latin is a mostly a reconstructed language, so it's not possible. Church or Medieval Latin in general would be interesting to see in that course. I guess the overwhelming majority of texts are written in it, although it's not as "natural" and living.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dogbark10

I CAN'T WAIT! Latin is such an important ancient language.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SavanahMin1

That sounds great Latin is fun

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Esen.
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Thank you, Boy1.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/biancoen

Woot! Finally! A Latin course!!

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Crummy1234

¿El latín está saliendo a doulingo?

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/86M9cHre
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Great! Look forward to trying it

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/HeyItsOcarina
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Hopefully more will be coming! The road to Latin will be slow, but as a wise man once said, "hopefully, it would have been worth the wait."

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton
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I think the pronunciation taught should be classical. Might as well teach what is "right" or what was originally "right."

If someone wishes to pronounce soft c's on their own away from the course, then just go for it, non?

I do the same with Florentine Italian as opposed to the course Italian -- in Florence, the c's at the start of words there instead of being hard are pronounced by many people as h's. So it's hoca-hola there instead of coca cola.

Just adjust the pronunciation away from the course as per your own personal preferences. People do it with every other language -- Quebecois vs Parisian pronunciation, etc etc etc.

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/judyholzwart
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Yay!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/L50Language

Yay!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Kangaroo_Joey

I'm wondering if learning Latin first helps to understand the romance languages with more ease?

Also, are there specific benefits for having a background in Latin that are a sort of reference basis that helps to better understand other languages more intuitively? Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Djedida
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I think Latin helps learning other romance languages as much as learning any romance language helps learning romance languages. There is for sure a greater etymological depth/relationship that can be beneficial, but otherwise I think learning Latin is best only for the sake of learning Latin. If you want to learn a romance language, learning Latin first would be an entirely roundabout way of doing it.

I can't help you much for your second question. I think it might have uses in academic fields, such as theology, philosophy, law, and medicine, but those fields usually have a writing course that teaches you the applicable Latin words you need instead of learning Latin in general.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/JuhaBackma
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I started my path into the Romance languages by learning Latin for three years in school, and my response is a bit mixed: especially if you go with the old style school language education where you learn the grammar in a quite formal manner, then Latin definitly helps to find a common base, and the vocabulary of course builds on the Latin foundations. (And one is less likely to make mistakes when quoting Latin proverbs.) However, I now believe that having started with French or Italian would have been as good an introduction to this family of languages, I see fewer differences between modern Italian and French grammars than between either of these and Latin. Also, learning a live language gives a practical skill.

Still, I'm looking forward to this course and will enroll on it as soon as the first version becomes available to brush up my almost forgotten skills.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/2E3S
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Learning Italian would help with other Romance languages more than Latin IMO. I often struggle to recognize the words in the modern languages even if I know them in Latin. This is probably because classical Latin is 2000 years old and the modern languages had completely diverged much later from Vulgar Latin + undergone similar processes like getting analytical / massively losing inflections. And that's what you'll have to learn in Latin a lot, especially for an English speaker.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SnowyWolf04
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Hurrah!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Sofia_Williams
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How are contributers selected? Is there any standards that they should have?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Christina57246

Congratulations! How exciting! Would love a Latin course! It's been a long time since my school days :) I think I saw an estimated a launch date of January 2020 in the comments- is that still right?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Piers.
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Wow! So when is Latin going to be available?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PIGuy6

Latin would certainly be fun to learn.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SarahBurt8

What kind of Latin is it? Vulgar Latin?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LinguistIn2
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As of Jan. 10, 2019 , it's still in debate but since the course is coming from speakers of English as well they might favor the Classical Pronunciation. However, Ecclesiastical Latin has more resources and is more widespread.

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SadboyYT

Wow! Good job Buachaill1! I hope we have more and more contributors as Duolingo continues to grow and expand.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Frivalry
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It would behoove DL and its users if the company had a posted freelance position for a Latin language expert, as it does for the Italian and Arabic courses. After all, as I understand, Latin would have the most complicated grammar of all major languages after Arabic.

In any case, the course for the dead/zombie language is arguably a job for intrepid learn-as-you-go volunteers among any contributors (such hardy souls would seem to be behind several of the other courses already). If need be, perhaps I'll take out my rusty old gladius and take a jab at volunteering myself, after duly charioting through some crash linguam Latinam!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Aqualad

What a cool addition to Duolingo! Looking forward to seeing the progress over the next year. Good luck Buachaill1 and other future contributors!

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/GEEZ_6

Cool, I really want to learn Latin.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ian858
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WOOHOOO A CONTRIBUTOR

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/OliverHill305481

Sweet

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/C2thehris

Gratias Deo! Super excited for this!

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Zachadoodles

hooray

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ColinKirsc

hi

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/zoe317507

This is so exciting. I've wanted to learn Latin for such a long time now!

4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/cris470115

I am Romanian. Would love to learn Latin since is the basic of my language. I am looking forward for it.

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jace_maxx

good job! we are so exited keep contributoring

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RandalOulton
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It's going to be a lot of work for the contributor, I don't envy them! Given how flexible Latin sentence word order can be, think of all the many variations that may have to be accepted....

3 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/loose-leaf1

I'll be very interested in trying this out. Let's hope that the mock up made earlier can speed things along to some degree.

1 day ago
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