https://www.duolingo.com/chillitom

No updates! / Niente cambia mai nel corso di Italiano..

chillitom
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I've been away for 3 years and just returned to see what new material I was missing out on. In the time I've been away Duo has received some updates but the Italian course content seems to have stayed identical.

Whilst being thankful to the current moderates/creators for all the hard work they have put in over the years perhaps it's time we found some new blood to bring life back into the course.

To that end I've left a note on the English for Italian speaks course forum to see if any fluent Italian speaks have the time and skills to help out.

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/30318107

Perhaps people on this forum know some fluent Italians, perhaps you have instructors that would be willing to become "Collaboratori", perhaps you have the skills to contribute yourselves.. rack your brains people!

Maybe the community here can find the help it needs to get the ball rolling again and bring this course up to par with some of the other major languages that are enjoying regular content and updates and new features like stories.

Tom

5 days ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/MABBY
MABBY
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How wrong you are-- I just experienced a male speaker on a spoken sentence (in 'Abstract Objects')!!

So someone is still working on things in the background.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chillitom
chillitom
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That's cool! I haven't heard that.

Though I'd count the voices as part of the software platform and not part of the course content.

From my understanding the voice software is a 3rd party speech synthesis service that they have licensed.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Riffman42
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I heard a male voice for the first time today too. It stunned me a little because I wasn't expecting it!

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TimDiggle

I have just started the Italian course today having more or less abandoned the language since I studied it at university in the mid 1970's and feeling in need of a major refresher.

Although I must accept your point that the course has not been updated I feel I must also make the point that the language appears to have changed very little in the 40 years that have passed since I spent 3 months at Milan University as part of the course. Even then comments were made at both Universities that although English, Spanish and French seemed to evolve and to adopt or adapt new words, phrases or grammar the Italian language appeared to be highly change-resistant. We suspected then (and I still believe it to be true) that Italian is little used outside Italy other than for classical or artistic studies making change less necessary (it does not figure in the world top 20 languages with only 60 million native speakers).

It is, however, a beautiful language and an ideal base for learning other romance languages. But if it has not changed what needs to be updated? D/L will get us only so far - progress beyond about B2 level is up to the individual and needs other resources.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chillitom
chillitom
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Hi Tim,

Thanks for taking the time to respond, some very good points that you make.

I agree that the language isn't changing quickly (though they certainly invent new slang terms at an appreciable rate), perhaps another contributor to this is the readiness with which they incorporate new english words into the language where as the French prefer to invent their own.

The basis for my concern is really that we're missing out on the newer features of Duolingo because the content isn't there and that there's room for improvement in the course by way of fixing and improving the existing lessons. New topics might also be appreciated, Spanish has 90 topics now where as Italian has 69.

I guess the point of this is not to say that what we have isn't fantastic but that there is room for improvement and the followers of this course could benefit from those improvements.

Thanks again

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Flumen91
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Italian will probably never have an update ever again. There are languages that are in Beta. Those languages will get updates. The languages that are not in Beta and are released are not going to get updates. When you scroll through the languages. Some will say "In Beta". Those ones will get updates, otherwise, it will not. (Unless it is not released.)

Hope that helps.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chillitom
chillitom
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Thanks Flumen91, I get what your saying, but I don't think it has to be this way.

We know there are errors in the course that have been reported over the years which haven't been addressed, we know that other languages have been improving despite having progressed out of beta status... take for example Spanish, one of the first course on duolingo and out of beta for years. They have seen a wealth of new material including new levels, stories, new images and podcasts.

There's no reason that the Italian course couldn't be improved in the future as well, many on these forums have submitted ideas for easily actionable improvements, it would be great if someone would look at them.

If we make enough noise and get the right people interested maybe they will.

5 days ago
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