https://www.duolingo.com/AidanCavan3

Welsh word list

I'm learning welsh and German, and I've noticed a descrepency between the two courses. On the German course, there is a tab you can use to access all of the words you've learned so far, but on welsh, there is no such page. This is probably just because welsh is less common, so there aren't enough contributors to make the list, but I this tool is very helpful in german, so I think it would also be nice to have for welsh.

January 12, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/EllisVaughan

The words list is a feature which is only available for certain courses on duolingo (mostly those created by duolingo itself as opposed to volunteer contributors). Until duo expresses intent to expand the feature to volunteer created courses there's not much the contributors can do.

January 12, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidSenio3

I was just thinking of posting on similar lines that the ability to practise a vocabulary list as well as lessons would be a very handy addition.

I enter all new vocabulary into a spreadsheet to allow me to practise them with a formula telling me if I'm right or wrong but having a similar function on the site would be good.

January 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Sarah73939

I hope duo considers this! It would be useful. I also like David's spreadsheet method--I'm going to look into how to do that myself.

Right now, I keep two separate vocabulary notebooks--Must Learn Now words and No Rush words. (I'm only making that distinction because I'm going to Wales in less than three months. It won't matter if I've memorized the word for mouse, for example, or square. Long term I want to reach fluency but short term, I need to prioritize what Welsh I may realistically use/practice on the trip.)

I write words in groups of six--Welsh words that I feel are comfortably in my short term memory after a Duo session or other source. Just the word, no definition. The next day, before any other practice, I go down the list until I'm confident I remember each one (and I'll look one up in the dictionary if needed). Then I write down the English words to the right and set the list aside for another day. Then I come back, quickly cover the original Welsh words, and look at the English words until I'm confident I know all the Welsh words (resorting to the covered Welsh words if I get stuck). Rinse and repeat. Words that pose no problem after five days get eliminated (yay!) and trouble words get added to new groups of six.

This is based on the idea that reviewing words once a day for five days is more effective than five times in one day.

Note: I've been told to group vocab words by subject--weather, for example. I can't do this. The minute I see, for example, y graeaf, I know the other word I can't remember must be "spring." I feel I'm not really learning the word unless I recognize it out of context. But that's just me. :)

January 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidSenio3

I use a similar system by colour code shading the vocabulary on my spreadsheet.

grey = don't recognise & need to learn (applies to words picked up on course notes that aren't in the unit or words from elsewhere, though I'm trying to discipline myself to avoid vocabulary beyond the course)

red = recognise the word when seen written but can't recall it when writing

amber = recognise the word when seen written & can recall it when writing though often with errors & needs more work to be able to say it is fully absorbed

green = fully absorbed & can recall accurately when writing

I have to manually change the colour shading and need to work out a better way to monitor my progress in recalling words, I think adding a count to the number of times I've correctly translated will suffice.

To help pronunciation I also have a column for a phonetic version of the word, this I enter when the word is first encountered using a table of phonetics for each letter I put together from some online resources. I've found it be accurate and compares well with the audio pronunciations.

It's still work in progress but I'd be happy to upload the spreadsheet to Dropbox and share a link to it for anyone to download and see if it is useful for them and let them modify it to suit their individual needs & preferences.

January 13, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/GarethViejoLento

My spreadsheet (spanish in my case) records the latest date a word has been successfully answered , then adds 1 to the count of times it is answered ok ( or subtracts one ...) - leaves a gap of N days from last time depending on the count [1 day, 3 days, 7 days, 14 days ..] leaving a list of words eligible for asking in this run -- and then chooses randomly from that. A mixture of these two approaches may be useful !

January 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidSenio3

I need to incorporate something like that Gareth, at the moment I'm manually entering "attempt number" and then "tries since last error", I need to look at making it less input intensive

January 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/GarethViejoLento

see if this helps -- it's pretty rough as I found that Memrise was doing much the same job so never polished it ... welcome to the code if it helps https://www.dropbox.com/s/86v295sr55bg2bi/SpanishVocabulary.xlsm?dl=0

January 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/DavidSenio3

Only done a bit of VBA on Access but I'll try my hand with the code if you're sure.

Linked mine below, it's grown to be more than just a vocab list but hopefully you'll see the method behind the madness in it ; ) https://www.dropbox.com/s/wy9s5cs62iaj0xj/Welsh%20Course.xlsx?dl=0

January 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/GarethViejoLento

Interesting to see the 'new' numbers in your spreadsheet! - I was brought up on the old numbers ( base 20 ) -- bymtheg 15 [from pum and deg], hugain 20 [latin viginti] - deunaw 18 [2x9] . :-)

January 17, 2019
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