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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heygirlitsme

Will Ireland ever speak Irish again in large amounts?

What do you guys think? And I mean just Native Speakers, not hobby Irish-learners. I hear the gaeltaecht is losing ground.

January 19, 2019

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

“Ever” is a long time for which to predict the future, so I’ll restrict the outer limit of my forecasting to 2050 or so. In my view, it is highly unlikely that during the next few decades, a majority of the native English speakers of Ireland will raise their children in an Irish-speaking household so that their children will have Irish as their first language.

January 19, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SimricYarr

While Irish, like other languages worldwide originally spoken by people who bore the brunt of nationalist expansion (in this case the Brits) has been pushed to geographical margins - the Gaeltacht - it's gaining in popularity in Dublin and children in the cities are beginning to be raised bilingual which is probably a sign of how it will survive and be revived in the decades to come, even as it becomes less common in more traditional areas. The same is true of Scots Gaelic, very much a minority language, but the Gaelic high school in Glasgow is the most oversubscribed school in Scotland.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heygirlitsme

I hate to be cynical but can I see an online paper saying it is gaining popularity in Dublin?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SatharnPHL
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Feel free to find a paper that says it's declining in popularity in Dublin, and share it with us.

In the meantime, have a look at the map of Gaelscoileanna on www.gaelscoileanna.ie. The pins show established schools, and the balloons show areas where attempts are being made to set up a Gaelscoil.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heygirlitsme

OK thanks. I just wanted to know if there is actual statistical evidence that it is gaining ground in Dublin and not getting worse by the day. Nothing wrong with asking for fact checking.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/heygirlitsme

Ok so I found this mini documentary on it. Apparently almost nobody speaks it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkd23pH4Eys


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With regard to the "gaining popularity" aspect of the question, these videos tell a different side of the story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLUafsmn-QM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0dqarGCbSI


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Min-Sugar

A lot of schools here go to the gaeltaecht with the childen for a week. So theres still hope.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidMarsh764255

I walk on to the train platform in Skerries heading into Dublin, there's a woman huddled on a bench. "Tá sé fuar" I call, "Tá sé an-fhuar" comes the smart reply. And we get into conversation.

I'm downstairs at the back end of a Dublin Bus. A woman in front is "giving out" to each and everyone on the bus, in English, that the WiFi's not working. Her phone rings, it's clearly a friend, as she switches seamlessly into Irish (She sounds like she's from Ráth Cairn, or maybe Baile Ghib) and begins bemoaning her grand kids and the lack of appreciation for their Christmas presents.

I'm no fluent speaker, but there won't be a day go by where I don't speak something to someone in Irish, even if it's only "An bhfuil tú go maith" or "feicfidh mé thú go luath…".. and the language is all around us... even the most anti-Irish language citizen knows what "Seachain an bearna" means when they are waiting for the Dart.

One final observation comes as I live on the east coast and sail from time to time, off to the Isle of Man. Manx is interesting, it's a kind of As Guerlainn with an English phonetic spelling, so it takes a bit of guessing to read it, but you can understand the spoken work well enough. The point here is that it died out completely, and was re-introduced by the schools. So if you go and hang around a chip shop in Peel, of a Friday evening, you'll find most of the kids can chat... A friend of mine thinks they use it as a code when chatting in front of parents and strangers... which is why we picked up on it...


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alien_Explorer

As someone from Ireland I can say only small-ish comunites and schools use it but it wouldn't be hard to find someone who knows a fair amout of it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/KellyManni3

I'll say I don't know, but I did want to mention something that's been in the news here this week - apparently parents are paying doctors and psychologists to get their kids out of doing Irish in school. They don't give numbers, only that the practice is rising.

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