"Tiongkok adalah negara di Asia."

Translation:China is a country in Asia.

January 22, 2019

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It is actualy Cina (chēnă)


On 14 March 2014, Indonesian President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, signed a presidential decree (Keputusan Presiden) No. 12/2014, to change the legal use of Indonesian language term to refer China. Changes including to replace the term Cina or China to Tiongkok to refer China as a country, and Tionghoa to refer Chinese people, or Chinese descents. This change was meant to eradicate discrimination and prejudice towards Chinese Indonesians.

More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Indonesia_relations#Tiongkok


That is true, but many people here still use ‘Cina’ to refer to both PRC and the Chinese descendants. They don’t regard it to be very derogatory either, although saying Tionghoa/Tiongkok does sound more polite & politically correct.


I believe- as a native speaker- what makes a word pejorative, in Indonesian, is more so in the intonation rather than the actual word itself.


That's true. And "tionghua" and "tiongkok" shouldn't be official bahasa indonesia words, they're hokkien, it's weird..


Just because they have an origin in another language is not “weird” at all. It’s a bit like in English when it’s more considered polite and correct to say someone comes from the Netherlands rather than say they are Dutch or come from Holland. Netherlands is a foreign word but nobody says it’s weird to use it in English too.


Cina is often used as an ethnic slur against Indonesians of Chinese ancestry, so Tiongkok/Tionghoa is preferred.


No it's just they use the word Cina and always talk bad about them! They have other words for the Chinese which are rude and so do the Chinese for the locals. They rightly or wrong have grudges against each other. The Chinese some what have the unfair end of things but they both treat each other poorly in their own way. The Chinese sadly face violence they should not.

If you want to be polite it's Zhongguo for China and Zhongguoren for Chinese person.

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