https://www.duolingo.com/YozakuraHime

Duolingo has a Portuguese-related job listing up. Is another Portuguese tree expansion in the works?

I like to look at Duolingo's jobs page, because it gives a glimpse into which languages they want to focus on next, and I was so happy when I saw this: https://hire.withgoogle.com/public/jobs/duolingocom/view/P_AAAAAADAAGeJRSa5I66DD2

They once had listings for Spanish and French up and then those two courses were expanded, so I hope they plan to do the same with the Portuguese course.

Granted, I'm still going through the Portuguese course, but more Portuguese content is never a bad thing. I hope they find someone to fill that position, and then ideally make more Portuguese content. :)

3 weeks ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Thomas.Heiss
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I hope they find someone to fill that position, and then ideally make more Portuguese content. :)

Well, I guess now I am a bit worried.

All the newer staff/contractor courses Spanish and French (trees 8+12) take a very different "teaching approach" by focusing on too many "vocabulary skills" and presenting grammar therein.

French trees8+12 do not have (all) those dedicated 26+ "grammar skills" from contributor tree3; you cannot select them.

I really like that the English->Portuguese contributor course uses dedicated grammar skills as well as more advanced ones incl. four Subjunctives.

I would really hate it if staff would remove those available grammar skills in our trees!

I really need to focus my efforts in my 3rd year on the bottom/advanced skills to more regulary practice grammar and level them up from L2/L3 crowns which I have not done yet in my first two years.

..(...)..

I am fine if staff plans to hire contractors just to add several "vocabulary skills" for more CEFR content and mix into random grammar here there just to practice (French tree12 has 156 skills).

For learning or reviewing grammar, it is really great to be able to simply select a few "grammar skills" and re-strengthen them back to 100% strength (gold) without any requirement to have to do sequentially "crown sessions" (lessons) and levelling them all up to L5 (which was my plan for my 2nd year, but I didn't do it).

It is really tough to be able to reach the bottom of a tree with the blue general PRACTICE button when previous skills all the time lose their strength.
I cannot put hundreds of XPs per day/week to re-strengthen ALL of my 96 skills to reach the bottom/end of my tree.

https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/27091995/FEATURE-REQUEST-Generic-practice-Strenghten-skills-needs-added-bottom-to-top-setting-per-tree

3 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Fuurinkazan.
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I share this concern. Dedicated grammar skills are useful especially in the beginning and later for reviewing when you’re looking for that one grammar point.

Going through the same patterns in each sentence within a single lesson really helped me to recognize "the new weird part" thoroughly.

Though I’m questioning if the benefits are that great after that initial introduction. Maybe encountering the grammar points "in the wild" makes the association to actual life situations better and thus enhances the learning as you are not expecting to see the same pattern in all of the next 15~ sentences within the lesson you’re doing that time but instead flow here and there grammatically speaking. That could be more challenging, maybe, if the sentences are still rather longer and fairly complicated than short and simple that is.

Honestly, I think if there were 2 grammar skills for the most grammar points, a shorter introduction skill for simple sentences, and a review skill with challenging sentences, they could locate the intro skills within the new "tree 8-12" structure and realize their new goal of "not wanting to scare the users with grammar", and the review skills in the end. Maybe they should think beyond "tree" and create a review tree that you can unlock by completing the tree.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Yeah, it sure seems to me like to really start getting these things nailed down you have to encounter them scattered around "in the wild." A large part of the battle is knowing when you use these things, and like you said, having a whole skill with nothing but the same forms dilutes the need to be thinking about which form is needed.

I think there's a tendency in the newer updates to divide content into somewhat smaller chunks but include enough examples of given points to drill them quite well indeed. Should help to get the basic forms down, and then hopefully they'll keep turning up throughout the tree. (Whereas now, there's a tendency for them to not appear outside the one skill where they're taught.)

2 weeks ago
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