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- "Tutte fanno così."
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From what I have read, I understand that 'fan' is just short for 'fanno'. I wonder whether this kind of word shortening is still common practice, or was it more so in Mozart's time?
Sound at the end of "tutte" goes down and it's very hard to hear the vowel — but "Tutti fanno così" is not accepted.
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If the meaning were "make", you would expect a direct object. "Così" is an adverb, and we normally would not say "He makes well". Rather, we would say "He makes IT well". However, we would say, "He DOES well". So "does" rather than "makes" is the correct English translation for this.
(Btw, in case anyone wonders, it's the singular "does" instead of the plural "do" because the plural subject "tutte" translates into English as the singular "everyone" or "everybody", which therefore require a singular conjugation in the verb.)
I wrote "All are doing it that way" and reported. Please also report,this discussion is just for exchange of opinions
Be careful changing the position of the adjectives, it changes the meaning of the sentence. In the sentence above, tutte modifies 'they', (They all do things). You have changed it to modify 'things' (They do all the things).
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Thanks, Margaret! But così does not mean "things". It means "so", indicating extent or, in this sentence "like that", indicating "that way"..
I translated "They all act that way" to be told that it is wrong and the translation given was "They all do that way." which of course is grammatically incorrect.. Cosi is an adverb and should be translated into English as "thus" or, more colloquially as "that way". It should not in English be translated as an object pronoun.
Yes, the feminine form is ultra famous, but certainly "tutti" is a correct translation of "all" when no gender is given. And not everyone knows Mozart.
Cosi is really equivalent to "so / thus / such". However, with the verb "do", they all sound archaic and have over the years been replaced by "(like) this / that". Quello is a demonstrative adjective or pronoun, not an adverb.
What is "bull squeeze"?
Bull squeeze is a way of saying merda di toro without the use of profanity and I still think this translation is full of it.
Are you seeing English to Italian? Because if you aren't, your point is pointless. At the top of my page, I'm given tutte fanno così; that is the question. The translation from così to 'that' is not very good but hardly bs, and quello is not relevant.
More accurate translations include "so do they all" and "they all do so".
Tutte not tutti. Feminine. The phrase is (no doubt deliberately) the exact modern equivalent of Mozart's opera title, Così Fan Tutte. It has nearly as many translations as productions, but the storyline best suggests "All girls are like that".
Even Mozart thought the same thing: Così fan tutte, (ossia La scuola degli amanti)!
I initially wrote, They do all that and of course it was marked wrong, but I couldnt understand why they and do were separated...
When "all" modifies a subject pronoun (e.g. they) it must either follow immediately (they all) or precede with "of" (all of them).
How do ee know this is tutte, and not tutti? It sounds the same when thus guy says it.
