https://www.duolingo.com/SantanaAft

Strange Lack of Content in Higher Levels

I've decided that after a few year hiatus from Chinese, I would jump back into learning it, and I figured that Duolingo would be a great place to start and refresh myself on everything that I had forgotten.

However, the higher level modules offer barely any content. Each particular module has a small handful of sentences -- on the order of two or three examples. Moreover, I encounter these sentences multiple times in different forms:

I have to listen to (or read) the sentence in Mandarin and write out its English translation. I have to read the sentence in English and write it out in Mandarin. I have to listen (and not read) the sentence in Mandarin and write out the English translation. Sometimes I'll write out the sentence in English with blocks and then write it out myself.

After a while, I stop paying attention because the exercises seem to be able understanding particular examples by rote, and not understanding the various ways to use a novel word, phrase, or grammar structure. Give me ten different sentences and I'll learn material better than giving me three sentences four times in a row.

It just feels like lazy course construction, and not something well thought out. I'm not saying that it is lazy course construction, but that's how I feel when I try to learn here, and that lessens my motivation to use Duolingo.

2 weeks ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/bookrabbit
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I have been finding this very demotivating too. Especially as the characters are so small that reading them requires much squinting and effort which is just not worth it when there is nothing new to learn. I find I can't force myself to do the lessons when they are so repetitive and so give in to the temptation to test out instead as at least the tests are more varied. But I worry I may miss something this way. I suspect this is the algorithm's fault as it forces the same number of questions no matter how many sentences are available. If I get a question right I don't want to see it again, particularly when it is too small to read easily. The algorithm needs to allow fewer questions when there are fewer sentences and we need to be allowed to zoom in to read more easily.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yves23A
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Perhaps you can try to use this : control + +. You push on control touch and you push on + touch, keeping control touch pushed. You can do it several times if necessary to become big enough for you. To come back to the current mesure : control + - as many times as you do for +.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/NasuSamaruk0
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To restore the zoom-size to default, follow this command: CTRL + 0.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bookrabbit
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I don't have a computer. If I did the screen would be big enough to read it anyway.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KennyHolst

I don't think it's a problem with the structure of the course, per se. It's just that the course is structured to handle A LOT more content than the course actually has. Like, maybe ten times more. The rollout of the crown system really exacerbated this. And surely they've been having trouble allocating resources to adding new content, as they've had so much catching up to do just for translation quality of the existing course.

So, what you're left with is a much smaller course literally stretched out tenfold into the massive structure that it has now.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ma16gigl

I've come across a new app that will be released soon geared towards more intermediate and advanced learners for reading bite-sized stories in their target language. www.readstori.com from what I can tell they will be offering more adult based stories in target language instead of easy children's stories. Plus I prefer to read in my language of target as an intermediate/advanced learner.

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Portofan
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Yes, I was just going to post a message about this. It started from Skill 65, after the last shortcut point. I have to translate the exact same sentence three to four times. Im thinking of stopping now and waiting until this is resolved.

I could swear that when I started there were only 64 skills, now there are 88. Is it possible that this last set is just very new?

2 weeks ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KennyHolst

I'm not sure if the last set came out later, but it has been 88 the whole time I've been here and that's been over a year.

But a lot of those sections have always felt significantly worse than a lot of the course. It used to be a really common complaint that whoever made a few of those lessons clearly just wasn't fluent in English, because some of the translations would be, and would only accept broken English.

I think their effort has always just been focused really heavily on the first half of the course. It's probably where the vast majority of their usage (and report data) has always been. Probably their top priority for filling in content as well.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DestinationVoid
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Some of these english sentences make me doubt my english skills.

Most of the errors I make, occur when I'm asked to produce one of these "weird translations". I feel like instead of improving my chinese, I'm learning chinglish. It's extremely frustrating!

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Yves23A
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Yes I think so, that it is possible.

1 week ago
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