https://www.duolingo.com/polmki99

9360 French lessons in total?

I'm studying French for English speakers. Each of the circle things has 60 lessons and there's 156 circles so that's 9360 lessons in total. Doing 10 a day it will take 2.5 years to do them all. Is that right?

1 week ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

Yes there's 156 skills - but only 741 lesson in total. Each lesson has 5 levels so that's 3705 lessons. So doing 10 a day will take about a year. (Keeping up 10 a day might not be possible though!)

See https://www.duome.eu/polmki99/progess

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FredrikVC
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Not according to my experience. As the number of crowns increases, so does the number of lessons to earn the next crown.

I don't know the total number for each crown or for each skill, but it increases.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Judit294350

You are right - I never noticed that before. (Or at least is true for the last two crowns I completed)

What does the "lessons" in duome refer to then?

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/shadowofthemoon
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Duome refers to Level 0 lessons - when you do all of them, you get a golden owl. There would still be as many L1 lessons, twice as many L2 lessons etc.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrarrmy
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Ohhh, that makes sense, thanks so much

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrarrmy
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Ya, as far as I can tell tree2 has 12 to 120 lessons/skill (4248+6)

Yet tree12 seems more uniform so far with 3 x 48 and 153 x 60 (9324+6) EDIT: 02/10/19 - Tree Updated with little changes, but total looks like 9624 (https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/30661101)

I've don't think I've spent much more than 20m a day for 1 year though and I've completed about 2 old trees worth. Testing out can get you there way faster very easily. Doing an hour on the weekend and you're flying.

EDIT: I'm not sure what DUOME calls lessons because the number seems way off.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ngraner42
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The levels go 1x, 1x, 2x, 3x, 5x, so each lesson gets repeated 12 times, which would be about 2 years at 12 a day. Unless they changed it for the new tree; I have the old tree.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CadetheBruce
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Unfortunately Duolingo has a bit of a design problem on its hand, because of its more recent change of direction to create monetized, staff-made versions of their courses to be licensed out via Duolingo Schools, and their redesign of the courses that added "crowns." Currently only the French course has released a staff-made version (that I know of) for non-school users, but among the French courses users, there are multiple versions of the French tree in use due to Duolingo's staff-made tree still being in A/B testing. Some of us who didn't get the staff-made tree for the A/B testing still have the older, volunteer-made tree for now.

I have the older style, volunteer-made tree (version 3) from when Duolingo was more of a free app than a "freemium" app. So it was designed with the idea that mostly adult learners would be using the course in their free time. It's shorter and more condensed. My version only has 96 skills and 402 lessons.

The older, volunteer courses also were designed before there were crowns, which added 5 "levels" to each skill unit. Before crowns, you simply did all the lessons for that skill once to "complete" it and over time, that skill would "decay" and periodically you would go back to review it to refresh it. So it took considerably less time to fully complete a course (what we often refer to as having a "golden" tree) than with the crowns system.

But in addition to the crown system, the newer staff-made trees appear designed to be "busy work" to keep students occupied over the course of a couple schools years. These courses aren't designed to be used leisurely by adults in their free time, although Duolingo fails to be upfront about this. Basically, they made the courses longer, to keep kids at school busy longer, but didn't design the courses to take the learner any further in the language than the older, more compact volunteer trees. As far as I call tell, if you intend the finish the tree entirely with leveling up each skill to 5 levels, you'll be working considerably longer to not get any further than you could with the older trees. Sorry. However, you can simply do each unit once, only leveling up to the first crown level and then moving on to the next skill, and still technically finish the course--that would take a lot less time than leveling every skill up to 5 crown level.

Likewise, the daily "goals" under the Coach section in your setting also reflect what was more sensible under the older system--to complete these newer staff-made trees in the same time frame, you'd have to do quit a lot more XP a day to finish the tree before you get deathly bored with it. But since Duolingo seems to be gearing up to phase out XP, I don't know how that is going to change once they get rid of XP. I guess the goals will be set to lessons per day rather than XP.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/badger246
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it's not obligatory to do all, or even any, of the lessons - you can test out of a level at any point and/or jump ahead on the tree using the checkpoints if you wish.

the new 156-skill EN->FR tree is a bit of a monster though, especially compared to the equivalent 55-skill FR->EN one.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/bri136137

Don't think of it as a series of equal parts. When you first start you'll be building vocabulary without the ability to infer meaning from context. Then you'll move on to a decoding phase during which your speed of translation is modulated by the speed of your recall of established vocabulary. Your use of clues and repeats will diminish. The rate at which you accrue points for study will increase, closely approximating your approach toward fluency. You'll infer meaning from context and you'll more quickly recognize near cognates and shared etymologies. I doubt that your arc of study will take you that long.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jrarrmy
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NEW Info: Tree12 apparently may have changed today, or at least it's fully open to me now. It's actually looking like:

TOTAL OF 9624 + 6 = 9630

  • 3, 3, 6, 12, 24 = 48 x 20
  • 4, 4, 8, 16, 32 = 64 x 13
  • 5, 5, 10, 15, 25 = 60 x 102
  • 6, 6, 12, 24, 48 = 96 x 8
  • 7, 7, 14, 28, 56 = 112 x 5
  • 8, 8, 16, 32, 64 = 128 x 3
4 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/DenisBouch7

I am not sure where you are looking. The number of lessons in each topic (circle thing) varies. Some have 40 lessons while others have 15. I have been working daily for 866 days and will probably complete all topics to level five within another 6 months. It will depend on how much time you spend each day. I spend about one hour per day. My version has 5 levels in each of 80 topics. The important thing to understand is that learning a language takes time. Think of how long it took you to learn your first language with 24 hours a day complete immersion. I now learn the most in the discussions included and the input from others and the moderators like Sitesurf.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FredrikVC
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That's just your tree. There are other French trees with other numbers of skills, etc.

1 week ago

https://www.duolingo.com/xsdragon

IDK

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