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Uncomplete genitive

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Hi. Can anyone help me?

If someone is asking whose computer this is and you want to say "It is the school's", how would you do that in German? Of course you could repeat the noun "Das ist der Computer der Schule" but in many cases, that seems too long and formal. Can you just say "Das ist der Schule"? I've never heard the last formulation, so does it even exist? What else would you say?

Thank you :)

6 days ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/Jileha
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Some possibilities:

Das ist der Computer der Schule.

Das ist der der Schule.

Das ist der Schulcomputer.

Der gehört der Schule.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/npLam
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Das ist der der Schule.

How about: Der ist der der Schule.

?

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jileha
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Theoretically in spoken language, yes. But only with stress on the first “der” or as “der hier”. It’s definitely not the best German, but I am sure we’ve all butchered one or the other sentence in our native language. Sometimes, words just come out in an odd way.

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https://www.duolingo.com/npLam
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thanks!

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https://www.duolingo.com/Hubert802318
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somehow correct, but doesn't work out....

"Der ist der von der Schule" works.

That is the one of the school.

5 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/LaugeTholander
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Thanks a lot

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/relox84
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I'd like to know too. My guess for a literal translation would be "der der Schule" (where the first 'der' is a demonstrative reffering back to 'der Computer'), but I don't know if it's correct as I never had to deal with this kind of structure before. I think "Das ist der Schule" would work too, and perhaps "Das gehört zur Schule" could be more natural.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/laeckphaettn
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"Das ist der der Schule" is grammatically correct - whilst in the context it would nowadays seem rather awkward, as "der" (the first one) is referring back to the ("this one computer") which essentially more or less means the school just has one :) Having said that, this construction is hardly ever used - especially not in a case where you would have the article / pronoun repeated. You could use that e.g. like "Das ist der meines Vaters". A more common option would be to replace the genitive with another construction like "Das ist der von der Schule / von meinem Vater" etc. Also, as you stated, "Der [not das] gehört zur/der Schule" is a viable option. "Das ist der Schule" on the other hand is in no way correct.

6 days ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RedAngel666

Hi Christian,

Das ist der von der Schule / von meinem Vater

Sounds at least colloquial, if not totally wrong, to me. Sorry but I wouldn't say it like that. A pupil might say it but is hopefully corrected by someone. (der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod)

which essentially more or less means the school just has one :)

correct, but depends on the question, right? If I ask if this special pc is in privat or official (school) use. The answer is correct.

best regards, Angel

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https://www.duolingo.com/Jileha
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First part - "der der Schule" - would work. Second part - das ist der Schule/das gehört zur Schule - does not.

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