https://www.duolingo.com/Lizard_Lady

Suggestion for developers: Divide "Plurals" section into "Indefinite Plurals" and "Definite Plurals?

I am at Plurals in Swedish and I feel overwhelmed for the first time with the language. I'm not learning anything in this section and I feel it's because I'm not given a chance to learn properly one form first (say, Indefinites, which seem to be the simpler one to learn) before the other form can be introduced so I can really tell the difference. What happens: I get it wrong, it comes back, I get it right; and by the time it comes round again later I make the same mistake again as I've already forgotten, especially as it varies a lot, the rules are hard to memorise and the only way is to learn it properly is to do each word over and over and over again until it's learnt like a tune in the brain. I feel I'm not given the chance to concentrate in one form only and learn it properly before moving to the new form. It's very very confusing and overwhelming. Please if anyone has any comments or ideas. How do we get this suggestion to the developers of this course? Many thanks.

February 14, 2019

9 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/devalanteriel

Seen and noted. Thank you for the suggestion. I can't promise this will definitely happen, but I do promise we'll consider it. :)

February 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/KimWidman

I have no idea how to get it through to the developers.

But I understand your confusion and I´ll upvote your post.

February 14, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/slogger

by the time it comes round again later I make the same mistake again as I've already forgotten, especially as it varies a lot, the rules are hard to memorise and the only way is to learn it properly is to do each word over and over and over again until it's learnt like a tune in the brain.

The "crowns" system has made this kind of practice particularly difficult, IMHO. While waiting and hoping that the skill will be split up, try practicing on duome.eu, which allows more effective repetition. Click on the skills name or on the dumbbell icon at the right of each line. Using timed practice helps, too, and here you can use it w/o waiting until level 5. This is not as good as the pre-crown setup, but it is a help.

February 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/SvenskaSisyphus

Lizard_Lady: While Google Translate has its limitations for complex translations, I have found it quite useful in learning simple constructions. For example: a cat = en katt; the cat = katten; the black cat = den svarta katten

February 15, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Azouras

*en katt ;)

February 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/SvenskaSisyphus

LOL - My english-swedish fusion inserted itself. I edited my post to correct.

February 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Azouras

Yeah, I figured you had just been a bit careless. I mostly corrected you so as to not confuse any beginners reading this thread.

February 16, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/KurtThornb

I'm up ahead of you. 57/66. You'll pick this up. The irregular plurals like hus, hus and apple, applen tend to be older, neuter words inherited from Old Norse. I still get confused about -ar, -er, and -or used to make regular plurals. Duolingo is something to "get your foot in the door" so you can go on and keep perfecting things. I am pretty close to the "celebration" button.

February 17, 2019

https://www.duolingo.com/Lizard_Lady

Thanks everyone, for your inputs. I've managed to get myself going on the plural section again by actually making a list every time a word would come up. In this way I was able to organise it all in my head and I would go back to this list each time before answering a question! It really helped ett äpple - äpplen äpplet - äpplena

en fisk - fiskar fisken - fiskarna

en pokje - pojkar pojken - pojkarna

en myra - myror myran - myrorna

en jordgubbe - jordgubbar jordgubben - jordgubbarna

en sköldpadda - sköldpaddor sköldpaddan - sköldpaddorna

ett brev - brev brevet - breven

en katt - katter katten - katterna

en mus - möss musen - mössen

en häst - hästar hästen - hästarna

en hund - hundar hunden - hundarna

en tidning - tidningar tidningen - tidningarna

en bok - böcker boken - böckerna

en fågel - fåglar fågeln - fåglarna

en smörgås - smörgåsar smörgåsen - smörgåsarna

en anka - ankor ankan - ankorna

en elefant - elefanter elefanten - elefanterna

en tallrik - tallrikar tallriken - tallrikarna

en kock - kockar kocken - kockarna

en kniv - knivar kniven - knivarna

en kvinna - kvinnor kvinnan - kvinnorna

ett djur - djur djuret - djuren

ett barn - barn barnet - barnen

en älg - älgar älgen - älgarna

en flicka - flickor flickan - flickorna

February 18, 2019
Learn Swedish in just 5 minutes a day. For free.