Hebrew needs to be more basic-
Can't learn Hebrew if no one teaches the alphabet first! How about more basic lessons?
as a native i agree. i went through the course for fun and had the same thought myself. it's a good course in my opinion though, so try to stick with it.
Trisha.. This course is by all means not for a complete beginner I agree. It does not teach nikkud and pretty much throws you into sink or swim experience. I am advanced in Hebrew and use it as refresher..but I wonder about how beginners feel when they go through it.. It is a bit "too much" for a start.. But stick with it..use You tube as it has many simple videos teaching Hebrew reading/writing.
I've written this before on the discussion board. My recommendations:
I really recommend doing the Hebrew alphabet course at Memrise before you start here, & YouTuber Linguistix channel to say the individual letters correctly.
Here's LINGUISTIX Hebrew Pronunciation for English Speakers: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfwqVVFqlT1v0tS9hhTg7kL1cUVyO4oFY
Then start vocab here at the same time you start Duolingo course.. There's people from 8 countries in my group! (You can use the website or the app)
I'm learning Hebrew Duolingo on Memrise! http://www.memrise.com/course/1031737/
I'm learning Modern Hebrew Complete (with audio) on Memrise! http://www.memrise.com/course/364795/
The three alphabet courses I did (at the same time for variety, like same three letters on each course, then next day three new ones, ) I'm learning ! Hebrew Alphabet ♬ IPA (no typing) alefbet on Memrise! http://www.memrise.com/course/165935/
I'm learning Hebrew Alef-Bet on Memrise! http://www.memrise.com/course/1087087/
I'm learning Hebrew Reading and Language Intro on Memrise! http://www.memrise.com/course/702355/
There is also a Shalom TV/ JBS Rabbi taught Hebrew module. It's a bit much to do the entire series, if you only need the pronunciation and not Hebrew school (as in HEBREW SCHOOL, not "Hebrew" school but I found the lesson /video on tricks for pronunciation & vowels really helpful. JBS Hebrew: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFYVdHvwACGu0b-foW7PDLuMfFAb6dUPV
There are also apps to learn the alphabet. And things like Shalom Sesame. There's also a YouTuber who is active on the Facebook group for Hebrew Duolingo learners, Daniel Ganor. He's got great videos. Here are his six lessons on the Hebrew alphabet: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtp44KdGs0bUDCbBkt2A5JMwyxlBvQ_oq
I got frustated too but with some effort I am learning the Letters 1, and has a steep learning curve... weeks to learn!
It's really not that hard to just learn your alphabets first and then use Duolingo
Just stick with it. It’s a little high learning curve, but the plus side is that you learn a really exotic language. And the first courses is nice with a lot of nice words. Mom dad, love etc.
Did you check the tips & notes? It has the entire alphabet.
It's definitely a tough course though, I won't argue that!
I cant speak for any other language other than greek. Duolingo should not be the primary way you learn the alphabet. Before starting Duolingo greek I learned the alphabet alone with the help of online books or youtube videos. Personally I feel Duolingo is good but for me it is not the best place to do the majority of your learning. It's good for filling in holes and maybe teaching you a little vocabulary but I use it for nothing else. Grammar, syntax, alphabet etc etc I learned all from grammar books or youtube videos. Just my opinion.
hebrew letter are almost same as english one, with good learning source and materials you can do it on your own
I started Hebrew as a complete beginner 140 days ago and now I'm more than one third of the way through. Other than the alphabet, you don't need any other supplemental material. At least upto the point where I've got. I used the Hebrew alphabet wikipedia page and it's pretty simple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet#Alphabet
Some of the language rules can be tricky but there are only a few and I found all answers in the discussion link under the questions.
Try doing the first three lessons over and over again until you are comfortable with them before doing much on the later lessons. I like to do one of the first three and one further down each day.
Duolingo never teaches foreign alphabets. You just have to learn them on Youtube or online somewhere. Then do the course.
I wish they would add proper skills to learn foreign alphabets.
You're learning Greek and Korean on DL, you must certainly be aware that that is not true. Duolingo also teaches the Cyrillic, Japanese, and Hindi scripts--but the Greek course does it best in my opinion, even going so far as to teach the names of the letters!
The problem is the degree of decentralization on DL; it's certainly a good thing that all the courses on DL are made independently from each other, but some less commonly taught languages could definitely benefit from the techniques employed by the creators of courses for more commonly taught languages
The Chinese tree does start with sounds, signs and words. This would also be very good for the Hebrew tree for beginners. It is technically possible! So why not. It is unfortunate that as a result, (that they did not do this on the Hebrew course) many people drop out of the Hebrew course.
Knowing alphabet won't help you much because this course omits vowels. The authors designed it for themselves and for other people who already know Hebrew. Every time we ask for nikkud (vowel signs) they reply "We don't use it in Israel". Which is actually a lie, Jewish kids learn reading and writing with vowel signs, they only stop using them when they become proficient. This course is useless for beginners.
If learning the nikud is what you want then this is probably not the course for you. I would be happy to learn Hebrew without nikud. I would like the course providers to provide Hebrew voice every time possible, every phrase we are asked to translate to english and every word we use to translate into Hebrew. Every other course I am doing provides this much voice.
Yes, I agree it would be better to have good recordings, but we don't have that either.
We have them on Memrise. And anki. And transliteration on wiktionary, pealim, morfix for nikkud, and Hebrewsongs.com and lyricstranslate.com ... I'm trying to transliterate songs for learning, then a bilingual (fluent) Israeli checks them before I upload them to lyricstranslate. There has been only two words I couldn't find the transliteration for and had to guess - (one I don't know if I'm right yet since he hasn't yet checked it, that's for the word שבויי), the other "word" I guessed and had trouble finding was חבלי כביסה Chavley kvisa
I do not entirely agree with you. Knowing the alphabet will certainly help. Because the Hebrew duolingo course is very fast for beginners it can be nice to first (also) learn the alphabet and their pronunciation with other lessons (see the link in my other post for a few examples)
maybe they can make two doulingo trees? 1 for beginner and 1 for the advanced? ;)
Trisha937741 this can (maybe) help you learn the letters (with sound):
No Hebrew text-to-speech?! No wonder it seems like a hard language. Are there automated telephone responders in Israel? Thanks are due to the good people that spoke the few words we can hear on Duolingo.
Google doesn't speak Hebrew either. https://project-modelino.com/software-category.php?site_language=english&learn_language=hebrew&category=tts makes two suggestions. Forvo has an API https://api.forvo.com/