Pronunciation of "c'est"

Something that often throws me off is I'll hear "ce" instead of "c'est" in the machine dictions. I had always thought "c'est" sounded more or less like the English "say," but it seems like Duolingo sometimes goes for a short rather than long 'e' sound.

Is this consistent with real spoken French? Maybe I'm just not hearing the difference yet.

Edit: And while I'm thinking of it, another one that trips me up constantly is de/des. I expect "des" to sound like "day" but often hear "de" instead, and end up making an error.

7/14/2012, 4:06:36 PM

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c'est is more like get (more open). des is more like "git" (more closed) but can be a bit more open, depending on the mood of the machine. The pronunciation is not always consistent.

7/14/2012, 4:48:28 PM

Someone asked a different question about the difference between the pronunciation of "blond" and "blanc." I recommended trying this voice synthesizer:

It has four French voices and it is really helpful for distinguishing pairs of sounds.

Here is a link to the other discussion: I hope you find it as helpful as I and the other student did.

7/14/2012, 5:19:11 PM

Try for crowd-sourced pronunciations

7/15/2012, 12:12:42 PM

@Mizotte acapela is remarkable. You can get an acapela widget with your choice of voice and then put it on a web page:

I hope Duolingo knows about this product. Their product's price varies by how it is used.

7/16/2012, 11:16:30 PM
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